State-Run Programs for the Poor, or Individual Responsibility for Helping Those in Need?

The following debate originally took place on my Facebook wall, upon my post, “Paying Taxes Will NEVER Qualify as Giving to “Charity””

Rayn: Wake up to the illegitimacy of coercion!

"It's amazing to me how many people think that voting to have the government give poor people money is compassion. Helping poor and suffering people yourself is compassion. Voting for our government to use guns to give money to help poor and suffering people is immoral self-righteous bullying laziness. People need to be fed, medicated, educated, clothed, and sheltered. If we're compassionate, we'll help them, but you get no moral credit for forcing other people to do what you think is right. There is great joy in helping people, but no joy in doing it at gunpoint." - Penn Jillette

“It’s amazing to me how many people think that voting to have the government give poor people money is compassion. Helping poor and suffering people yourself is compassion. Voting for our government to use guns to give money to help poor and suffering people is immoral self-righteous bullying laziness. People need to be fed, medicated, educated, clothed, and sheltered. If we’re compassionate, we’ll help them, but you get no moral credit for forcing other people to do what you think is right. There is great joy in helping people, but no joy in doing it at gunpoint.” – Penn Jillette

Brian K.: But for the people in need of being fed, medicated, educated, clothed, and sheltered it’s all the same. Self-righteous joy and moral credit (kind of defeats the purpose of altruism) is a luxury. I think their immediate needs are greater than leaving it to the chance of charity and some generous volunteers.

Rayn: Hmm… I have a quick question for you, Brian. Have you ever been one of the “people in need” that you refer to? Well, I have – and, I can say for certain that the various forms of assistance out there in this world are not “all the same,” as you claim. This is true no matter how dire the individual situation at hand. And, forcing an apathetic public to finance a corrupt, soulless institution (whether the “State,” or otherwise), purely in the HOPE and FAITH that a lack of direct concern for (and interest in) the ACTUAL welfare of others will miraculously translate into anything other than systemic ABUSE, NEGLECT, AND FRAUD… Those individuals are living in a PURE FANTASY LAND!

My experiences have long ago opened my eyes to the fact that those hired by the State to “aid” the needy not only loath the poor and destitute, but also actively seek to punish, demean, degrade, demoralize, and strip the dignity of those they are duty-bound to assist. State aid for the poor is nothing more than a rotten fraud, and a dismal failure – giving the apathetic an excuse not to help those in need (nor, to lift so much as a finger, or to get their own hands dirty, for that matter), and the sadly misinformed, yet good-intentioned, a reason not to act!

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Discussing Department of Homeland Security Trolling Internet with Racist Posts

The following correspondence originally took place on my Facebook wall, upon my post, “Department of Homeland Security Trolling Internet with Racist Posts“…

Rayn:

“TROLLS: Some of them get paid to be assholes”

I’ve been telling others about this disgusting behavior for YEARS!

Racist Web Posts Traced to Homeland Security:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/nyregion/25immig.html?_r=0

So, next time you read some pathetic, racist comment under an article or video, don’t be so quick to assume that it’s genuine bigotry – and, NEVER, EVER waste more than a few minutes shutting it down with a reply – since the intent may really just be to anger you, or at least, just to shake your faith in humanity!

Andy H.: OMG! WTF!

Sara: holy shit, finally proof!

Rayn: On YouTube, I have a special account that I call these types of scumbags out with:
http://www.youtube.com/ChokeAndDieInHell

I simply cite the article I mentioned above, then ask the racist who exactly they work for – all as a comment right in their channel wall! 95% of the time, their account is deactivated just a few hours later! And, I know it’s not a penalty for their racist comments, since many of my targets posted racist comments for over a month before I determined to expose them! 🙂

Nick M.: *cough* Im one of those trolls *Cough*

Sara: Those pigs are probably instructed to abort mission once they’re exposed and then they just create 10 more fake racist profiles to spread their filth with. Now, anytime I see that, I’ll send you the link so you can get them with your ChokeAndDieInHell account!

Rayn: Abolish the Dept. of Homeland Security! It was created under Bush, is completely corrupt, and does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but absorb our tax dollars under false pretenses! Can you believe that WE pay for them to write these racist posts online!?

Individuals who trust in our government are merely CULT MEMBERS, drinking the Kool-Aid of pathocracy!

Rayn: Stop lying, Nick! How could you possibly have time to troll the web AND masturbate for sixteen hours a day!? Impossible!

Nick M.: cause uncle sam pays me to

Department of Homeland Security Trolling Internet with Racist Posts

As I scrolled through my Facebook news feed, I discovered the following artwork here, being shared by the page, “Abolish the Dept. of Homeland Security!,” and originally posted it to my own wall, along with commentary…

"TROLLS: Some of them get paid to be assholes"

“TROLLS: Some of them get paid to be assholes”

My Commentary: I’ve been telling others about this disgusting behavior for YEARS!

Racist Web Posts Traced to Homeland Security:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/nyregion/25immig.html?_r=0

So, next time you read some pathetic, racist comment under an article or video, don’t be so quick to assume that it’s genuine bigotry – and, NEVER, EVER waste more than a few minutes shutting it down with a reply – since the intent may really just be to anger you, or at least, just to shake your faith in humanity!

Shitting on Pseudo-Morality!

As I scrolled through my Facebook news feed, I discovered the following artwork here, being shared by the page, “People Over Politics,” and originally posted it to my own wall, along with commentary…

"We live in a culture where people are more offended by 'swear' words and middle fingers than they are by famine, warfare and the destruction of our environment."

“We live in a culture where people are more offended by ‘swear’ words and middle fingers than they are by famine, warfare and the destruction of our environment.”

My Commentary: What a bunch of motherfucking assholes! I piss and shit all over their pathetic sense of “offense”!

Paying Taxes Will NEVER Qualify as Giving to “Charity”

As I scrolled through my Facebook news feed, I discovered the following artwork here, being shared by the page, “-GET Involved! You Live Here-,” and originally posted it to my own wall, along with commentary…

"It's amazing to me how many people think that voting to have the government give poor people money is compassion. Helping poor and suffering people yourself is compassion. Voting for our government to use guns to give money to help poor and suffering people is immoral self-righteous bullying laziness. People need to be fed, medicated, educated, clothed, and sheltered. If we're compassionate, we'll help them, but you get no moral credit for forcing other people to do what you think is right. There is great joy in helping people, but no joy in doing it at gunpoint." - Penn Jillette

“It’s amazing to me how many people think that voting to have the government give poor people money is compassion. Helping poor and suffering people yourself is compassion. Voting for our government to use guns to give money to help poor and suffering people is immoral self-righteous bullying laziness. People need to be fed, medicated, educated, clothed, and sheltered. If we’re compassionate, we’ll help them, but you get no moral credit for forcing other people to do what you think is right. There is great joy in helping people, but no joy in doing it at gunpoint.” – Penn Jillette

My Commentary: Wake up to the illegitimacy of coercion!