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Taxation is Theft

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The following debate originally took place upon my Facebook wall, after I posted artwork being shared by the page, “Campaign for Liberty“…

Rayn:

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“TA_ATION I_ THE_T”

Morgan S.: beats the hell out of me.

Rayn: 🙂

Morgan: i dont know if it is all one word or what the thing is. ..it is something I have never heard of .

David L.: Taxation is theft?

Morgan S.: maybe? who really knows. right? I mean it could be a Latin word for a thing? but giving that it is shared from a campaign for liberty page. you are probably right but it is not a true statement because how would a nation exist with out taxes.? communism? with out a some form of governing body, you would have a lawless society that sadly most of our great grand parents and us would not be alive.they would have likely been killed by a bad person.

David L.: I agree that taxes are needed, its how the tax money is used afterward that is the conundrum.

Rayn: You’ve guessed correctly, David. And, the statement is absolutely true, Morgan. The existence of a “nation” doesn’t supersede the existence of the Individuals within it. Meanwhile, individuals cannot simply relegate rights which they don’t have, themselves, to others, no matter how much they imagine that such activity would somehow eliminate the lack of morality inherent to the unjust acts they seek to commit, by proxy – nor will it relinquish them of personal responsibility for the acts now being committed in their name. Since you and I have no right to take money from others without their consent, neither does the State! It wouldn’t matter if we tossed out the claim that it was for the “greater good,” or if we used some of the stolen money to buy our victim a service he also didn’t consent to, as we pocketed some for ourselves as payment for arranging said service. It would be a criminal act, regardless. It’s probably disappointing to hear this, if you’re a member of the Statist cult, but… yeah… true morality is universal, like that.

Rayn: To that, David, I quote William Pitt: “Necessity is the argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves.” (Click Here to Continue Reading This Post) →

Exposing the Retrogressive Left

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The following debate originally took place upon the Facebook wall of my friend, Daniel Sv….

Daniel Sv.: Sad example of the retrogressive left.

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“Kyle: Freedom of speech is bullshit.
Deidre: I’m dealing with someone using freedom of speech BS right now!! I do not have the spoons for them today! Ugh.
Brandon: It is bullshit and it is also very scary.”

Jonas A.: Useful sheeple idiots!!!! 😡

Jason H.: I don’t see this as a left – right issue.

Rayn: Synchronicity. I was just reading this article a few moments ago:

The Coddling of the American Mind:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/

For the sake of accuracy, “progressives” should start calling themselves “regressives”! 🙂

Daniel Sv.: What’s scary is how quickly this happened. College 10 years ago was nothing like this.

Rayn: Definitely wasn’t in the late 90’s, either! (Click Here to Continue Reading This Post) →

Licenses Are Merely Government Permission Slips for Rights We Already Have!

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The following debate originally took place upon my Facebook wall, after I posted artwork being shared by the page, “The Liberty Principle: No Consent from the Governed“…

Rayn:

"A license is what you get when the government steals your rights away from you and then sells them back." - Mark Edge, Host of 'Free Talk Live'

“A license is what you get when the government steals your rights away from you and then sells them back.” – Mark Edge, Host of ‘Free Talk Live’

Daniel F.: So should one have an unqualified right to operate a motor vehicle despite not knowing how to operate it safely, or having shown a complete disregard for the safety of others while driving it? Should one have the “right” to endanger the safety of others, either through ignorance or complete disregard?

Now there IS way too much bureaucracy in all this – fees for renewing one’s license and registration, overzealous police patrolling the streets looking out for traffic and parking violations so they can issue summonses mainly for the purposes of bringing in revenue – while “fixing” tickets for their own friends and relatives. Meanwhile a fine that can cause significant financial hardship for a poor person will barely be of any inconvenience at all to a rich person despite both committing the same “offense”, which may or may not have any actual justifiable reason for existing at all. (Speed limits for instance – it should not be an offense simply to drive above some arbitrary preset limit; only if they are actually endangering others should there be cause for any sort of action against them.)

Rayn: LOLZ! A license is merely a highly overpriced government permission slip for the right to freely travel. It provides ZERO GUARANTEE that one actually has the ability to safely drive a car, nor that one will continue to maintain the ability to safely drive a car, and it certainly isn’t an indication that one will actually regard the safety of others when driving! You might not have noticed, but the vast majority of accidents that take place in America result from the actions and activity of “licensed” drivers! So, obviously, a “license” means almost nothing, in the scheme of “safety.”

Alternatively, plenty of individuals do have the ability to safely drive a car, while having no valid driver’s “license” to speak of. This is especially true when considering the fact that the government revokes and suspends the driver licenses of so many, year after year, as punishment for non-driver safety offenses – such as non-payment of “tickets,” non-payment of court fees, drug convictions, etc… Also, the mere act of letting a valid driver’s license “expire” (which is simply a euphemism for failure to REPAY for a license that was already adequately secured) will result in the revocation of a driver license, as well! (Interesting enough, such a situation makes a driver’s license an indirect tool of abuse against low-income individuals).

And, speaking of indirect State abuses that come with our current state of affairs, a “driver’s license” (and a “non-driver license” for that matter), are major tools of oppression in the arsenal of the police state, giving courts the ability to strip away the right to freely travel for non-driving related, victimless “crimes,” and giving cops the pretext to harass and warrantlessly search any person walking down the street. The latter especially true for individuals of color, and for the disabled – who are the most likely to be on the receiving end of such State activity.

As for your question, “should one have the ‘right’ to endanger the safety of others, either through ignorance or complete disregard,” the answer is “no.” We have a right to live, to self-ownership, and to peaceful co-existence. No one has the “right” to initiate harm against others, no matter the so-called “motivation.” But, this all has very little to do with a driver’s license, and everything to do with Individual action, ability, and responsibility.

One thing we can agree upon is the unnecessary bureaucracy involved, and the many abuses that come with it. Also, speed limits are also highly problematic, and indicative that the the rules of the road are about the State’s USUAL AGENDA: COMPLIANCE WITH AUTHORITY, and REVENUE COLLECTION – rather than “SAFETY”… (Click Here to Continue Reading This Post) →

Justify the State, or Defend Liberty?

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The following debate originally took place upon my Facebook wall, after I posted artwork being shared by the page, “Americans Against the Republican and Democratic Parties”…

Rayn:

"If taxation without consent is not robbery, then any band of robbers have only to declare themselves a government, and all of their robberies are legalized." - Lysander Spooner

“If taxation without consent is not robbery, then any band of robbers have only to declare themselves a government, and all of their robberies are legalized.” – Lysander Spooner

Daniel F.: Declaring themselves a “government” means absolutely nothing. If there someone out there powerful enough to bring the robbers to justice then declaring themselves a “government” isn’t going to help them weasel out of what’s coming to them; if there isn’t then they’re getting away with it whether they try to pass themselves off as a “government” or not.

The state does not have power because it is a state; it is a state because it has power to begin with.

Rayn: Sure, it doesn’t… LOLZ!

Cops Now Take More Than Robbers:
http://reason.com/archives/2015/11/27/cops-now-take-more-than-robbers

Rayn:  But, without government, who would commit theft, under color of law? (Click Here to Continue Reading This Post) →

We Are NOT Powerless!

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The following debate originally took place upon the Facebook wall of my friend, Brooke N…

"We are powerful beyond measure"

“We are powerful beyond measure”

Brooke N.: An NC Tax Plan That’s an Exercise in Villainy:
http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article36473067.html

Please read the comment and the article. This is NOT about a conspiracy theory. It is about what is happening to North Carolinians in broad daylight. I have friends who involve themselves in all kinds of conspiracy theories. The Rothschilds, the Fed., Kennedy’s Assassination, 9/11. To my mind, some of these theories could be at least partially true, but it doesn’t matter because even if we knew for sure that the CIA or whomever killed Kennedy, there is nothing we can do with that knowledge. We are powerless. If we could do anything it would make no difference in our lives. I find those things to be distractions from what happens where the rubber hits the road. At the state and local level where we KNOW what is happening, it affects us and we CAN do more about it than we can about Obama’s origins or FEMA camps. With that I share a commentary on North Carolina’s new tax legislation.

Amos H.: I’m glad to see that Gene Nichol is still fighting the villains who’ve tried to silence him.

Brooke N.: Sad situation in NC.

George R.: I had the honor of volunteering on Gene’s campaign when he ran for Senate in Colorado. He is a wonderful man. That said, I have always been a supporter of the “Fair Tax” and don’t believe that it is a “regressive tax” at all. But here we are not talking about the “Fair Tax” exactly although both entail a sales tax.

Sharon B.: One sure thing they can expect is a rise in petty theft. Food ad clothing come first and everything else follows.

Rayn:

"The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." - Alice Walker (Artwork posterd located here, on the Facebook page, "Autism Woman's Network")

“The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don’t have any.” – Alice Walker
(Artwork originally located here, upon the Facebook page, “Autism Women’s Network“)