Discussing the Police Arrests of Cannabis Smokers at Guns N’ Roses Concert in New Jersey

The following debate originally took place upon the Facebook wall of family…

Guns' N' Roses on stage, performing a concert at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey

Guns’ N’ Roses on stage, performing a concert at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey

Sara: This is why I don’t bother with shows in NJ. Cops out there harrassing fans just looking to have a good time. Watch out for them MARIJEWANNA smokers! smh.

30 People Arrested at Guns N’ Roses Concert at MetLife Stadium:
http://abc7ny.com/entertainment/30-people-arrested-at-guns-n-roses-concert-at-metlife-stadium-/1441247/

Justin W.: Prison complex industry is a highly profitable business in the land of the home of the free n brave.

Jason K.: I know. It’s crazy that police would arrest people for drugs, assault, etc etc. What is this world coming to? Lol

Sara: They arrested people for smoking weed which I do not consider a drug and the other shit probably happened while people were resisting arrest from being arrested for weed. 30 people though? Sounds like they had nothing better to so but hang out at a GNR concert and harass people. Every concert I go to people smoke up. They’re not hurting anyone.

Jason K.: Yeah, but the facts are it wasn’t just weed and there were sexual assaults as well. Also some fights. I guess that should be part of the concert experience. Lol

Sara: Any body acting violently deserved to be arrested but leave the pot smokers alone.

Jason K.: Not really Sara. First it’s illegal. Second, what about people who want to go to a concert and not be forced to smell pot. Some people find the smell gross. Then their clothes and hair reek from it as well. Third, how about people who have to take drug test for work? When your breathing that in all night it get in your system. 3 years ago a friend of mine failed a drug test and was suspended for 30 days without pay

Sara: Waaaa. Poor you. Don’t go to GNR concert if you don’t want to smell like weed and cigs. Stay at home and watch a DVD.. I’m aware pot is illegal but as I said, I don’t consider it a drug and most people don’t. They’re committing a victimless crime. This story you told is literally the first time I’ve ever heard of someone failing a test by catching contact. Any company that would suspend someone for weed for 30 days is full of shit. I hope he hired a lawyer and fought that Shit and no longer works for that company.

Jordan K.: Jason, you have got to be the biggest cop dick sucking vagina I’ve ever seen. “Oh noo bad things were happening so that means peaceful marijuana smokers should go to jail along with violent people.” Did you have to strain for that logic? You fucken pantywaste. “My feelings are hurt I had to smell the smoke…w ahhhhh!” Don’t go a concert then you fucking pussy.

Jordan K.: Jason, 3 years ago your friend lied about failing a drug test from a contact high. They smoked that shit, but cool story bro! Now please go back to catching pokemon in your safezone. Don’t run too fast you might fall and hurt your knee again!

Rayn: “Illegal”? Statism is a disease of the mind and the soul…

“Slavery was legal; apartheid [was] legal; Stalinist, Nazi, and Maoist purges were legal. Clearly, the fact of legality does not justify these crimes. Legality, alone, cannot be the talisman of moral people.” – Walter E. Williams

Jordan K.: Rayn: Exactly! Saying, “first it’s illegal” is like saying “first, I’m a mindless soulless drone that does whatever the State tells me too because I have no moral compass of my own.” (Click Here to Continue Reading This Post)

To Begin on the Path Towards Peace, Recognize One of the Most Basic Tenets of Morality

As I scrolled through my Facebook news feed, I discovered the following artwork here, being shared by the page, “End the Drug War,” and originally posted it to my own wall, along with commentary…

"More police have died enforcing laws prohibiting personal liberties, than for any other reason. People don't understand why cops are being killed, but there are more laws prohibiting civil liberties now than ever before. If you want fewer dead cops and fewer dead citizens at the hands of cops, you better make freedom your business."

“More police have died enforcing laws prohibiting personal liberties, than for any other reason. People don’t understand why cops are being killed, but there are more laws prohibiting civil liberties now than ever before. If you want fewer dead cops and fewer dead citizens at the hands of cops, you better make freedom your business.”

My Commentary: No Victim, No Crime! Please MAKE IT YOUR BUSINESS to understand this basic tenet of morality! Otherwise, the “legal” system you are forced to pay for will continue to violate, abuse, kidnap and imprison the innocent and peaceful in the name of “safety,” “the greater good,” and other such empty, meaningless tripe.

The IngSoc Mentality Reigns Supreme in America

The following correspondence originally took place here, on the Facebook wall of Voluntaryist, Larken Rose

(replies from all third parties have been omitted for clarity)

"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.' - George Orwell, 1984

“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.’ – George Orwell, 1984

Larken Rose: Here, have a PRINCIPLE: The fact that allowing people their freedom might result in things you don’t like, and things that don’t benefit you, does not mean that forcibly infringing on people’s freedom is justified. Freedom means you don’t always get your way. Deal with it.

Rayn: The IngSoc mentality of doublethink is polluting the thought patterns of far too many to even count. And, we are quickly approaching the year 1984.

Being pro-liberty and pro-justice (hence, a Voluntaryist), I often find myself debating Statists who protect their slave-minded views with some variation on the theme that “freedom is slavery.” These types typically regurgitate thoughtless claims, such as “warlords will take over,” “criminals will run the show,” and other such completely contradictory, totally accusatory ideas. And, I usually eviscerate their faulty logic by simply pointing out that the things they fear most about freedom are, interestingly enough, exactly those which are currently *legally* happening under the yoke of the State.

Also, being pro-peace, and hence, anti-war, I also find myself in the strange position of debating Statists who claim some variation on the theme that “war is peace.” These types often dutifully explain to me that the American government is bombing the Middle-East for the sake of “reducing violence,” for “stability,” for “protection,” for “liberty,” etc., etc. They even readily agree with my assessment of their view, when I say, “so, basically, you believe that war is peace?” Very few recognize the reference, nor do they understand its implications. The idea that a war pig like Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize is completely Orwellian, alone. When I hear any mention of the pathetic “war on terror” justification, I often invoke crickets by mentioning that war, itself, is terrorism. More doublethink…

Sadly, the “ignorance” required for, and maintained by, these two major modes of doublethink lends enormous “strength” to sociopolitical collectivism, and by extension, the continued existence of a single ruling authority-head, capable of molding and forming such a gigantic mass of shapeless, empty human beings into one centrally-structured body.

What Each One of Us is Owed In Life…

The following correspondence originally took place upon the Facebook wall of family, after they shared graphic art from here

Genaire:

"You are entitled to nothing. Want it? Earn it."

“You are entitled to nothing.
Want it?
Earn it.”

Rayn: As we Voluntaryists like to say, “I Owe You Only Non-Aggression.”

Timeless Tribal Wisdom

As I scrolled through my Facebook news feed, I discovered the following artwork here, being shared by the page, “Native American Chiefs,” and originally posted it to my own wall, along with commentary…

"One does not sell the land people walk on." - Chief Crazy Horse, September 23, 1875

“One does not sell the land people walk on.” – Chief Crazy Horse, September 23, 1875

My Commentary: One of the hidden origins of man-made poverty…