Circular Reasoning: Debate a Statist Edition

The following debate originally took place on my Facebook wall, upon my post, “Circular Reasoning, Statist Edition Series: Example 3

Rayn: Circular reasoning: “The law should be obeyed because it’s the law should be obeyed because it’s the law should be obeyed because…” *head spins*

"The law should be obeyed because it's the law"

“The law should be obeyed because it’s the law…”

Katherine C.: Well, the law should be obeyed because it’s basically the social contract that allows us to coexist peacefully (enough).

Genaire: The social contract in which no one has signed.

Katherine C.: If we had to rely on every idiot and moron to sign it, it would never get done, nor would it be efficient. I’m not saying the system is perfect, not even close, but the ideal isn’t a bad one.

RaynI don’t agree with you for two reasons, Katherine. For one, legality doesn’t equal morality. Confusing the two is a very dangerous mode of thinking.

"How does something immoral, when done privately, become moral when it is done collectively? Furthermore, does legality establish morality? Slavery was legal; apartheid is legal; Stalinist, Nazi, and Maoist purges were legal. Clearly, the fact of legality does not justify these crimes. Legality, alone, cannot be the talisman of moral people" - Walter E. Williams

“How does something immoral, when done privately, become moral when it is done collectively? Furthermore, does legality establish morality? Slavery was legal; apartheid is legal; Stalinist, Nazi, and Maoist purges were legal. Clearly, the fact of legality does not justify these crimes. Legality, alone, cannot be the talisman of moral people” – Walter E. Williams

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Still Haven’t Found This “Social Contract” I’m Allegedly Party To…

As I scrolled through my Facebook news feed, I discovered the following artwork here, being shared by the page, “TRUTHgasm,” and originally posted it to my own wall, along with commentary…

“I can’t seem to find this mystical document called the ‘social contract’ you claim I am party to.”

My Commentary: Still…

(note: though I previously shared a different picture of this quote in April of 2012, within my post, “Empty Tradition is the Religion of the Dead!,” I still felt compelled to offer up an alternative commentary when I saw it again, due to the inspiring nature of these words)

Discussing the Imaginary Document Known as the “Social Contract”

The following correspondence originally took place on my Facebook wall, upon my post, “Empty Tradition is the Religion of the Dead!“…

Rayn: Empty tradition is the religion of the dead! I choose Life!

“I can’t seem to find this mystical document called the ‘social contract’ that you claim I am party to.”

Mehrdad S.: :)))))))))))))))))))) Thanks Rayn. Shared.

Empty Tradition is the Religion of the Dead!

As I scrolled through my Facebook news feed, I discovered the following artwork here, being shared by the page, “Voluntaryism,” and originally posted it to my own wall, along with commentary…

“I can’t seem to find this mystical document called the 'social contract' that you claim I am party to."

“I can’t seem to find this mystical document called the ‘social contract’ that you claim I am party to.”

My Commentary: Empty tradition is the religion of the dead! I choose Life!