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The following debate originally took place upon the Facebook wall of my friend, Daniel Sv…

Daniel Sv.:

Laudisz B.: me too (it was my third, after sinoph*2: the 1st pfizer)

Jesse S.: I am glad you took care of that because it is necessary to protect yourself and others around you!

Laudisz B.: nicely done,. vaccinating is intelligent, whilw not vaccination is unintelligent

Rachel B.: Laudisz, I’m pretty sure the Tuskegee study shows that it’s not intelligent to just blindly follow without researching what’s being put in your body. Blindly fearing is also bad. Neither one is intelligent, or unintelligent, it’s the manner in which people do it that makes them unintelligent

Laudisz B.: Wrong. Layman should blindly follow. That is intelligence among laymen. Reasoning: if you have no idea about the toptic, the most intelligent to do is to accept the superioir opinion.Blindly fearing is also bad – here agree -unintelligent as well. Hope this helps

Rachel B.: Laudisz, there are many professionals who are not getting the vaccine. Microbiologists, virologists, immunologists, doctors, nurses, people in the know, are speaking against it. Scientists all over are getting silenced. Should not that be a big red flag to you? These aren’t just everyday people.

Laudisz B.: Rachel, again wrong, all professionals want the vaccine, those who don’t they are cheaters or charlatans (Me: 7 year med univ, +6 years postrgradual training to intensive therapy.)

Laudisz B.: I treat the infected people. I think th topic is discussed.

Rachel B.: Laudisz, So, everyone who disagrees with you doesn’t count for anything? 😆

Not very scientific of you. You’re one of the people who should know that a weak vaccine like what we have has the potential to cause far more harm. The efficacy is pretty bad, doesn’t last very long, doesn’t even prevent death, and no one is being held liable for any bad side effects, of which there are, although the government is saying that no one has to follow the law requiring them to report said side effects. There are a lot of red flags, especially when people like you who are in the medical field, demand trust while there are a million questions not being answered.

Bribing people, coercing, threatening, the way this vaccine has been pushed has been like an abusive relationship, not like how all the other vaccines have been, and it’s caused a lot of mistrusting people. Calling other professionals who are of a different opinion than you “cheaters” definitely gets you zero trust, and an automatic suspicion. Science is about questioning, anyway, that’s how we get more answers to potential problems, and if you swear that this vaccine is 100% perfect, then you’re more an idiot than I thought.

Laudisz B.: Rachel, as reading through your thoughts,I havea feeling, 1 ) you are an intelligent man 2) no knowledge in biology.

Rachel B.: Laudisz, incorrect on both counts.

Laudisz B.: okay conclsion: please everyyone take the third vaccine.

Rachel B.: Laudisz, yeah, very unscientific. Conclusion, don’t blindly trust those who act like they’re in a cult and refuse to accept questioning of their beliefs.

Jenny S.: Rachel, Don’t trust people on the internet, people make things up to make them sound better and/or more of an authority than you to push their transparent agenda. People lie on FB a lot. About their careers, family, friends everything 🤔

Laudisz B.: I am the professional whose opinion you all are looking for, you just don’t know it. So please take vaccines, this is the consensus among us,professionals. It saves many more lives than you would think (if you are an outsider and don’t frequently visit hospitals or not at all). Good for you, and it should remain like that.

Zach A.: Congratulations! And welcome to the club!  😃 (@Daniel)

Alan G.: You sold out, man! (@Daniel)

Rayn: Congratulations, lab rat! (@Daniel)

Rayn: The “profe$$ionals” are in full agreement! (@Laudisz)

Pfizer and Moderna Could Score $32 Billion in COVID-19 Vaccine Sales — in 2021 Alone:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/business/pfizer-vaccine-covid-moderna-revenue/index.html

Meet The 50 Doctors, Scientists And Healthcare Entrepreneurs Who Became Pandemic Billionaires In 2020:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/giacomotognini/2020/12/23/meet-the-50-doctors-scientists-and-healthcare-entrepreneurs-who-became-pandemic-billionaires-in-2020/

Dr. Anthony Fauci: The Highest Paid Employee In The Entire U.S. Federal Government:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/01/25/dr-anthony-fauci-the-highest-paid-employee-in-the-entire-us-federal-government/

The 5 Wealthiest Americans Have Gotten 75 Billion Dollars Richer While a Pandemic Guts the Economy:
https://www.newsweek.com/5-wealthiest-americans-have-gotten-75-billion-dollars-richer-while-pandemic-guts-economy-1506044

The Megarich Have Already Recovered From the Pandemic. It May Take the Poor a Decade to Do So:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/24/economy/oxfam-inequality-rich-poverty/index.html

(Not sure why Facebook removed my comment, multiple times)

Rayn:

Rayn: FDA Medical Adviser: ‘Congress is Owned by Pharma’:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/congress-big-pharma-money-123757664.html

Lawmakers With Stock Holdings Vote in Ways That Juice Their Portfolios, Data Shows:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/12/10/congress-votes-stock-portfolio/

Trading in Congress: The Most Popular Stocks Owned by Congress:
https://investinganswers.com/articles/10-most-popular-stocks-owned-congress

Rayn:

Rayn: $cIeNcE is $eTtLeD!

The Biopharmaceutical Industry Provides 75% Of The FDA’s Drug Review Budget. Is This A Problem?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnlamattina/2018/06/28/the-biopharmaceutical-industry-provides-75-of-the-fdas-drug-review-budget-is-this-a-problem/

Rayn: $cIeNcE is $eTtLeD! 😸

Rayn:

Rayn: You Can’t Sue Pfizer or Moderna if you Have Severe COVID Vaccine Side Effects. The Government Likely Won’t Compensate You for Damages, Either:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html

People Harmed by Coronavirus Vaccines Will Have Little Recourse:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/people-harmed-by-coronavirus-vaccines-will-have-little-recourse-11602432000

Drugmakers Shielded from COVID Vaccine Liability But Funds for Injury Claims in Doubt:
https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2020/08/14/579150.htm

The PREP Act and COVID-19: Limiting Liability for Medical Countermeasures:
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10443

New Push Could Block COVID-19 Vaccine Injuries From Program That Usually Pays Victims:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/investigations/new-push-could-block-covid-19-vaccine-injuries-from-program-that-usually-pays-victims/2415521/

Big Pharma Co. Gets Immunity from COVID Vaccine Liability: ‘We as a Company Simply Cannot Take the Risk’:
https://www.westernjournal.com/big-pharma-co-gets-immunity-covid-vaccine-liability-company-simply-cannot-take-risk/

AstraZeneca to be Exempt from Coronavirus Vaccine Liability Claims in Most Countries:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-astrazeneca-results-vaccine-liability-idUSKCN24V2EN

Drug Companies Continue to Shed Liability for Rushed Coronavirus Treatments:
https://theintercept.com/2020/08/28/coronavirus-vaccine-prep-act/

Who’s Responsible for COVID-19 Vaccine Damage? Not the Manufacturers:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/291361

COVID-19 Vaccine Makers See EU Shield Against Side-Effect Claims:
https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN26D0TY

Coronavirus Vaccine: Pfizer Given Protection from Legal Action by UK Government:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-pfizer-vaccine-legal-indemnity-safety-ministers-b1765124.html

UK Government Grants Pfizer Civil Legal Indemnity for COVID-19 Vaccine:
https://www.jurist.org/news/2020/12/uk-government-grants-pfizer-civil-legal-indemnity-for-covid-19-vaccine/

[Canada’s] Trudeau Government Silent on Drug Manufacturer Liability for COVID-19 Vaccines:
https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/12/08/trudeau-government-liability-covid-19-vaccines/

Vaccine Suppliers Given Indemnity for ‘Inevitable’ Side Effects:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-government-grants-indemnity-for-covid-19-vaccine-side-effects-20201008-p5636o.html

Who Pays Compensation if a COVID-19 Vaccine has Rare Side-Effects? Here’s the Little We Know About Australia’s New Deal:
https://theconversation.com/who-pays-compensation-if-a-covid-19-vaccine-has-rare-side-effects-heres-the-little-we-know-about-australias-new-deal-147846

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A Whistleblower Says the FDA Isn’t Properly Regulating Vaccine Facilities:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-whistleblower-says-the-fda-isnt-properly-regulating-vaccine-facilities

Rayn: Pfizer is a convicted corporate felon company, found guilty of false advertisement, and pushing dangerous products on the public, in one of the biggest cases like it, in American history… So, OBVIOUSLY, they are completely trustworthy, and if you lack any confidence in their “products,” it’s only because you’re a ignorant science-denying layman who’s too stupid to recognize your superiors, and mindlessly follow their noble edicts, when ordered to!

Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History-
Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history

And, it wasn’t even their first time!

Huge Penalty in Drug Fraud / Pfizer Settles Felony Case in Neurontin Off-Label Promotion:
https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Huge-penalty-in-drug-fraud-Pfizer-settles-2759293.php

Laudisz B.: Rayn, then take a vaccine of another company

Jesus G.: Rayn + make your own vaccine at home guys : )

Make Your Own Flu Vaccine:

Rayn: “ThEn TaKe A vAcCiNe Of AnOtHeR cOmPaNy” – Corporate $cience Cultist

Cool story, bro. 😎 However, your dismissive, apathetic, unsolicited, critical-thinking-free “suggestion” to me only exposes the fact that you haven’t even begun to properly educate yourself about the conspiratorial intrigues of corporate-level criminality, Mr. “Profe$$ional.”

Johnson & Johnson to Pay $2.2B in U.S. Health Care Fraud Settlement (November 2013):
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/johnson-johnson-to-pay-22b-in-us-health-care-fraud-settlement/

Former Johnson and Johnson Executives Are Convicted Over Off-Label Marketing (July 2016):
https://www.bmj.com/content/354/bmj.i4179

By the way, why are you spewing unsolicited “medical advice” at me, anyway? You don’t even have the first clue about my medical history, my allergy status, nor any contraindications I have. Are you some sort of eugenicist? Disgusting…

Newsflash! I’m not here to be your f^cking lab rat, nor to play society’s f^cking guinea pig… In spite of my disability, I will continue to protect my bodily autonomy against the ill-intentions of all NPCs and NSPs (Non-Source-Players).
🖕😾🖕

Laudisz B.: Rayn, it’s not like that. You can’t refer to freedom of your own body, if that puts others to danger. Contraindication is a previous severe allergic reaction to an ingredient that is in the vaccine. If you have more questions I answer them, but pls leave this trash talk (also, I am not interested in consp theories). So if you would like to ask for a certain knowledge you would like to know go ahead.

Rayn: Your lack of respect for the bodily autonomy of others doesn’t entitle you to force medical procedures upon the innocent, Laudisz, regardless of the pathetic excuses you come up with to justify such criminal activity. This is especially true when considering the fact that you advocate forcing a “preventative” procedure upon otherwise healthy individuals, against their will. Show me a single shred of evidence that my individual bodily autonomy is placing even one other individual in “danger,” sociopath. As my Accuser, the burden of proof is squarely on YOU to provide evidence of your claims against my peaceful innocence. And, considering the fact that you know zero about my medical status, it’s obvious to me that you’re a charlatan.

This might surprise you to learn, but good ideas don’t require force. Consent is the foundation of a peaceful and just society, whereas COERCION is the tool of WEAK, incompetent, and arrogant authoritarians, who SIMPLY DO NOT POSSESS the social and emotional intelligence required to persuade others, nor to treat their peers as equals…

P.S. I didn’t ask you to define “contraindication,” you smug, self-important embarrassment. I wrote, “you don’t even have the first clue about my medical history, my allergy status, nor and contraindications I have.” My words are still available to read, above, clearly. Your pathetic attempt to twist them into an inquiry for youself to answer REEKS of desperation. Talk about thirsty! The medical “expertise” you imagine to hold – which you feel entitles you to push rushed, experimental modified-gene-therapy-treatments upon society, at large, is 100% based in arrogant delusion. You do not know the medical status, nor history, of even 1,000 individuals, let alone the whole planet. You are a victim of your own ego. The only danger I see, between the two of us, is your promotion of MEDICAL TYRANNY. Historically, your kind has been far more dangerous and deadly to humanity than ANY healthy, “asymptomatic,” natural-immunity-supporting individual, like myself, has EVER been!

Laudisz B.: Rayn, good luck

Rayn: No thanks, Laudisz. I don’t believe in superstitious nonsense, like “luck,” nor “authority.”

The following debate originally took place upon my Facebook wall…

Rayn:

Steve K.: It says that there a lot of really dumb healthcare workers. 90+% of healthcare workers and Board of Ed workers are vaccinated here in NYC. What does that tell you? Oh and, 100% of the members of my gym are vaccinated so, I can run on the elliptical machine without wearing a mask.

Thomas M.: Steve, according to Fauci, the vaccines do jack shit to the Delta variant; hypocritical to call 70k health care professionals “really dumb” and then immediately say some ignorant ass shit about not having to wear masks in the gym anymore.

Steve K.: The vaccines have all but eliminated COVID (including the Delta variant) from NYC. It’s just Staten Island that won’t get vaccinated or, wear masks. That being said, NYC is 90+% vaccinated and hospitalizations are dropping like a rock while states where people are refusing to vaccinate or wear masks are dealing with big surges in hospitalizations and deaths. So, yes I am able to safely not wear a mask in my gym where proof of vaccinations are required and no one is getting COVID.

Thomas M.: Steve, tell that to Israel, where the most mRNA-vaccinated country in the world is seeing a huge surge in hospitalizations of the vaccinated with the Delta variant. What logic are you using to come to the conclusion that, having been vaccinated, you need to protect yourself from the unvaccinated? That’s a rhetorical question because there is no logic behind it. These vaccines only have one positive thing going for them: they make a great litmus test for critical thinking skills and who will blindly do what they’re told. 

Congratulations. I live in a state which has low vaccination rates and mask wearers, yet I’ve not seen nor heard of even one person “drop like flies” from COVID-19. You got played and will continue to get played with the booster shots. What long-term data do you have to show me that these shots are safe? That’s also a rhetorical question because there is no long-term data. They’re all in trial phases right now. 

Congratulations on being duped into being a guinea pig for Big Pharma. How long ago did you get vaccinated? Have you been tested for blood clots? Do you even know what’s in the vaccines (rhetorical: they haven’t released their ingredients list)? Have you went to get an examination of your heart to see if it’s enlarged? Even if you did do those tests, you have absolutely no idea what consequences you may get from it 10 years from now. All I know is that we haven’t had these vaccines a year, yet, and it’s already killing healthy young folks, and causing life-altering disabilities too. That’s just the short-term data. You gambled with your life, we’ll see if it pans out for you.

Steve K.: Actual facts. People aren’t getting COVID in NYC.

Steve K.: You mean other than the 700,000 people who have already died.

Steve K.: You can write as many paragraphs of Fox News conspiracy theories as you want. I have no patience for stupid people.

Rayn: Steve, the only dummies I see are the test dummies, rolling up their sleeves to be injected with repeated doses of a rushed, experimental, modified-gene-therapy “treatment” made by top convicted corporate felon company, Pfizer, even though the only immunity it provides is legal immunity for the manufacturer – to shield the company from liability for any and all damages and injuries caused by its product.

Rayn:

Rayn: Steve, the 90% “vaccination” rate you quote that’s being reported by the government among healthcare workers and educators in NYC tells me exactly ZERO because it was extracted by FORCE.

New York to Require Vaccination or Weekly Testing for City Health Workers:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/20/nyregion/mandatory-vaccine-public-hospitals.html

My educator and health care worker friends in NYC tell me that the “unvaccinated” are subject to painful, invasive, dangerous, sinus-inflaming weekly COVID testing at their worksite, and forced to wear a face mask for eight hours a day…

Getting the jab, merely to avoid weekly medical rape and asphyxiation is not consent. It’s COERCION. And, your failure to distinguish this, even as you cherry-pick the results of such a corrupt and criminal practice, only exposes just how little you respect the bodily autonomy of others.

Steve K.: The above article is from July and both the City and State have updated their policies. As of this week, all teachers and health care workers who have refused to vaccinate are now on leave without pay. Among everyone I know and reports from local hospitals are reporting on vaccination rates and new cases. In NYC, the government can’t get away with gaslighting because there are too many watchdog organizations, and reporters. The bottom line is that almost no one is getting sick from COVID here. Any numbers you may be hearing about are from Staten Island where people are still refusing to vaccinate.

Steve K.: Today’s update, COVID infection rate is a little more than 1% in New York State.

Rayn: Huh, Steve? The date of article precisely illustrates NYC’s criminal jab policy to be a long-standing assault against bodily autonomy. And, the current, even-more-criminal “vaccine mandates” only prove that the State’s initiation of violence against the innocent and peaceful is escalating, and will continue to do so.

As for statistics… Those of us who have been paying attention to events in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Connecticut or Massachusetts, from the beginning, know all about what your morally-bankrupt, sociopathic criminal government “officials” did to force up the number of elderly fatalities, during this “pandemic.” We haven’t forgotten how all of these States ordered the nursing homes in their localities to create wards inside their facilities that were already full of vulnerable elderly patients. They opted to exercise undue, unnecessary government authority over these medical facilities, and directly caused almost half of all the U.S. COVID-19 deaths that took place, last year, because of it.

Those who continue to promote COVID panic, over 500 days after the “two weeks to flatten the curve” propaganda campaign that began this hostile global corporate takeover of the planet, never seem interested in discussing the “unintended consequences” of the State “interventions” they keep pushing for. Usually, they are much too busy demanding more authoritarian “intervention,” on a bigger and more highly-centralized scale, in order to fix the messes caused by the State’s last “intervention”…

3 States Account for 42 Percent of All COVID-19 Deaths in America. Why?
https://fee.org/articles/3-states-account-for-42-percent-of-all-covid-19-deaths-in-america-why/

Almost Half of US COVID-19 Deaths are Linked to Nursing Homes:
https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/almost-half-of-us-covid-19-deaths-are-linked-to-nursing-homes/

COVID-19 Death Rates Reveal the States that Failed the Test: New York and New Jersey:
https://nypost.com/2020/08/12/covid-19-death-rates-reveal-ny-and-nj-are-states-that-failed-the-test/

The Most Important Coronavirus Statistic: 42% Of U.S. Deaths Are From 0.6% Of The Population:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/05/26/nursing-homes-assisted-living-facilities-0-6-of-the-u-s-population-43-of-u-s-covid-19-deaths/

DOJ May Investigate Blue States Over COVID-19 Deaths at Nursing Homes:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/doj-may-investigate-blue-states-over-covid-19-deaths-at-nursing-homes/ar-BB18pifM

DOJ Probes Bursing Home Deaths in 4 States — Including in NY:
https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/doj-probes-nursing-home-deaths-in-4-states-including-in-ny/

More Than 100,000 U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Are Linked to Nursing Homes:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-nursing-homes.html

Blame Governors for the Coronavirus Deaths in Nursing Homes: Goodwin:
https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/blame-governors-for-coronavirus-deaths-in-nursing-homes-goodwin/

These Five Democrat Governors Behind Tens of Thousands of Coronavirus Deaths Sent COVID-19 Patients to Nursing Homes:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/five-democrat-governors-behind-tens-thousands-coronavirus-deaths-sent-covid-19-patients-nursing-homes/

Gov. Cuomo Sent 6,300 COVID-19 Patients to Nursing Homes During Pandemic:
https://nypost.com/2020/07/08/cuomo-sent-6300-covid-19-patients-to-nursing-homes-amid-pandemic/

Gov. Cuomo’s Controversial Order Requiring Nursing Homes to Admit COVID-19 Patients Was Reportedly Removed from New York’s Health Website:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/gov-cuomos-controversial-order-requiring-nursing-homes-to-admit-covid-19-patients-was-reportedly-removed-from-new-yorks-health-website/ar-BB14GiNL

New York’s True Nursing Home Coronavirus Death Toll Cloaked in Secrecy:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-nursing-home-coronavirus-death-toll-secret

Cuomo Aide Melissa DeRosa Admits They Hid Nursing Home Data So Feds Wouldn’t Find Out:
https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/cuomo-aide-admits-they-hid-nursing-home-data-from-feds/

New Allegations of Cover-Up by Cuomo Over Nursing Home Virus Toll:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/nyregion/new-york-nursing-homes-cuomo.html

Coronavirus News: Dr. Fauci Says New York ‘Did it Correctly’:
https://abc7ny.com/covid-19-ny-fauci-anthony-cuomo/6324584/

New Jersey Investigates State’s Nursing Homes, Hotbed Of COVID-19 Fatalities:
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/11/854063582/new-jersey-investigates-states-nursing-homes-hotbed-of-covid-19-fatalities

68% of Pennsylvania Coronavirus Deaths are from Nursing and Personal Care Homes:
https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/68-of-pennsylvania-coronavirus-deaths-are-from-nursing-and-personal-care-homes/article_22baa7c2-e181-11ea-88ce-5f7bae6c70c2.html

Nursing Homes Account for 7 of Every 10 COVID-19 Deaths in Western Massachusetts:
https://www.masslive.com/coronavirus/2020/06/nursing-homes-account-for-7-of-every-10-covid-19-deaths-in-western-massachusetts.html

Nursing Homes Account For 60% Of COVID-19 Deaths In Massachusetts:
https://www.wbur.org/news/2020/05/03/nursing-homes-covid-19-deaths-mass

Ex-Care Home Bosses Charged Over Dozens of COVID Deaths in Massachusetts:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/26/massachusetts-care-homes-deaths-charges

Not Just COVID: Nursing Home Neglect Deaths Surge in Shadows:
https://www.news10.com/news/coronavirus/not-just-covid-nursing-home-neglect-deaths-surge-in-shadows/

Do Not Resuscitate’ Orders Caused Potentially Avoidable Deaths, Regulator Finds:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/03/do-not-resuscitate-orders-caused-potentially-avoidable-deaths-regulator-finds

Rayn: Pro-maskers, pro-lockdowners, and pro-vaxxers are covert eugenicists, who consider the disabled an “acceptable loss,” in their plans to enforce one-size-fits-all medical treatments upon the entire population, regardless of consent. Change my mind.

#LockdownsMurderTheDisabled
#MasksMurderTheDisabled
#VaccinesMurderTheDisabled

Fury At ‘Do Not Resuscitate’ Notices Given to COVID Patients With Learning Disabilities:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/13/new-do-not-resuscitate-orders-imposed-on-covid-19-patients-with-learning-difficulties

NY Issues Do-Not-Resuscitate Guideline for Cardiac Patients Amid Coronavirus:
https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/ny-issues-do-not-resuscitate-guideline-for-cardiac-patients/

Coronavirus: Autistic Support Group ‘Told It Needed DNR Orders’:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-52217868

NHS Managers Told Care Homes to Put Blanket ‘Do Not Resuscitate’ Orders on ALL Residents at Height of COVID Crisis, Report Shows :
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8656957/NHS-told-care-homes-not-resuscitate-orders-residents-height-Covid-crisis.html

Daughter’s Agony After Doctors Place DNR Notice on Her Elderly COVID-Stricken Mum Without Her Consent:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13689870/daughter-doctors-do-not-resuscitate-covid-mum/

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“I wEaR mY mAsK tO pRoTeCt BoTh oF uS!”

Two Boys Drop Dead in China While Wearing Masks During Gym Class:
https://nypost.com/2020/05/06/two-boys-drop-dead-in-china-while-wearing-masks-during-gym-class/

“VaCciNeS aRe SaFe AnD eFfEcTiVe!”

Man, 70s, Dies MINUTES After Getting COVID Vaccine at NYC’s Javits Center:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13989861/man-70s-dies-getting-covid-vaccine-nycs-javits-center/

“VaCciNeS aRe SaFe AnD eFfEcTiVe!”

A Few COVID Vaccine Recipients Developed Rare Blood Disorder:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/08/health/immune-thrombocytopenia-covid-vaccine-blood.html

“StAy HoMe. SaVe LiVeS!”

Cancer Patients are Having Their Treatment Cancelled Already – Just a WEEK into Second Covid Lockdown:
https://www.the-sun.com/lifestyle/1780830/cancer-patients-treatment-cancelled-second-covid-lockdown-deborah-james/

“StAy HoMe. SaVe LiVeS!”

At Toronto’s SickKids Hospital, Two Thirds on Wait List Have Missed Their Surgery ‘Window’:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/canada/article-at-torontos-sickkids-hospital-two-thirds-on-wait-list-have-missed/

“StAy HoMe. SaVe LiVeS!”

Concerns Grow Over Delay in Cancer Treatment Amid Coronavirus Lockdown:
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/feature-concerns-grow-over-delay-in-cancer-treatment-amid-coronavirus-lockdown/ar-BB1aXnX9

“StAy HoMe. SaVe LiVeS!”

Health Service Faces Wave of Lawsuits Over Hundreds of Scans, Tests and Operations Cancelled in Lockdown:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8824905/NHS-faces-lawsuits-cancer-patients-scans-tests-operations-cancelled-lockdown.html

“StAy HoMe. SaVe LiVeS!”

Lockdown ‘Caused Up to 21,000 Extra Deaths – Many Due to Reduced Access to Healthcare’, Shocking Study Claims:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8574317/Lockdown-caused-21-000-extra-deaths-reduced-access-healthcare.html

“StAy HoMe. SaVe LiVeS!”

Suicides on Rise Amid Stay-at-Home Order, Bay Area Medical Professionals Say:
https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-19-coronavirus-rates-during-pandemic-death-by/6201962/

“StAy HoMe. SaVe LiVeS!”

CDC Director Compares Rate of Suicides to COVID-19 Deaths:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/micaelaburrow/2020/07/28/redfield-says-more-abovebase-suicides-than-covid-deaths-n2573278

“StAy HoMe. SaVe LiVeS!”

Suicide is Now the Leading Cause of Death for Children Ages 10 to 14 in Ohio:
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/state/suicide-is-now-the-leading-cause-of-death-for-children-ages-10-to-14-in-ohio

“StAy HoMe. SaVe LiVeS!”

Suicide Attempts Among Children Skyrocket Amid Pandemic:
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/health/suicide-attempts-among-children-skyrocket-amid-pandemic/2457357/

“StAy HoMe. SaVe LiVeS!”

In Japan, More People Died From Suicide Last Month Than from COVID In All of 2020, With Women Impacted, Most:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/28/asia/japan-suicide-women-covid-dst-intl-hnk/index.html

Rayn: My post wasn’t an invitation for you to litter my comments section with your pro-authoritarian graffiti, eugenicist. I’m not interested in your ability to regurgitate corrupt, mainstream media monopoly talking points, whatsoever. Did you regularly update your Facebook friends with the government numbers that the media presstitutes unquestioningly reported to the public, when the Killer Clown Cuomo was murdering all of those unsuspecting grandmas and grandpas, then labeling them “COVID deaths”?

The following debate originally took place upon my Facebook wall…

Rayn:

Cindy Sheehan: fuck off with the commie stuff and learn the difference between communism and fascism.

Rayn: A Tribute to Communism:

Rayn: Mao’s Great Leap Forward ‘Killed 45 Million in Four Years’:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-great-leap-forward-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html

Rayn: Never Forget: Life After the Khmer Rouge Genocide:
https://www.gq.com/story/cambodia-khmer-rouge-michael-paterniti

Rayn: Communism, laid bare, in Khmer Rouge…

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Rayn: Marx’s Apologists Should Be Red in the Face:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/marxs-apologists-should-be-red-in-the-face-1525388258

Rayn: Communism is the number one most deadly form of the nightmare called government.

Rayn: “Communism, much like Corporate Capitalism and Socialism, is a hopelessly failed hierarchical system that breeds corruption and genocide! Once in place, elections vanish, and are quickly replaced by a single-party totalitarian government! Historically, communism has never worked, and some of the worst dictators to date rose to power under this system, including Mao Ze-Dong and Jozef Stalin, who collectively mudered almost 100 million individuals (making Hitler’s 12 million murders seem like child’s play)! Communism helps along the eugenics agenda of killing “undesirables,” like the mentally challenged, the disabled, and certain religious or social groups, in order to keep costs low for the working class! Ze-Dong and Stalin were hailed as “heroes” by many of those living in their respective countries, because they had the “courage” to do the “grisly math” necessary to make communism a socially & financially viable system! Just like corporate varietals, communism slowly traders a nation’s wealth into the hands of a few, greedy super-elitists!”

Communism is a Just Another Hierarchical System of Bondage (Much Like Socialism & Capitalism):
https://acidrayn.com/2009/08/07/communism-is-a-just-another-hierarchial-system-of-bondage-much-like-socialism-capitalism/

(We discussed this topic, on my Facebook page, back in August of 2009)

Rayn: Communism is THE most murderous flavor of Statism, on record. It’s indefensible, and undignified for human beings to be treated as workers drones in a hive, or cattle on a farm, by a small gaggle of sociopathic “rulers.”

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(Cindy Sheehan removes me as a Facebook friend, and places my profile on “block”)

The following debate originally took place upon my Facebook wall…

Nurse Who Tested Positive Days After Vaccine Is Reminder Protection Not Instant, 2 Doses Needed:
https://pix11.com/news/coronavirus/er-nurse-tests-positive-for-covid-19-eight-days-after-receiving-vaccine/

A California nurse tested positive for COVID-19 more than a week after receiving the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine. Health experts are saying this may not be completely unexpected given the time it takes for the vaccine to become protective and the fact that a second dose is needed for full efficacy.

(Read entire article here…)

Michael S.: Rayn, what’s your point? The article gave indications why this might be the case. Also, this isn’t going to be a perfect vaccine since its the first of its kind.

Rayn: My point was to share the article with my FB friends, so they can read it, Michael. What’s your point, in asking my point? Do you have a problem with informed consent, regarding medical experimentation?

Either way, I certainly didn’t designate you as my FB post “opinion checker,” and I’m not even remotely interested in even a single one of your efforts to justify mass human experimentation, using a product containing chemicals and genetically-modified mRNA, on the public at large, without informed consent, by a convicted corporate felon Pharmaceutical company that’s been given full legal immunity from any damages that result from their “product.”

Michael S.: Rayn, would you like to discuss this in Facebook Messenger? You seem upset and I’m not sure why because I was trying to discuss the article with you.

Rayn:  I merely responded to your inquiry, in kind, Michael. “What’s your point?” is no place for you to begin a discussion on this article, with me, especially while you follow up your inquiry with the vague claim that “the article gave indications why this might be the case.” “Might,” eh? So, even as you admit that this phenomenon is taking place, and that there’s not even a scientific consensus on exactly why, and it’s all part of experimental medicines, you ask me what’s the point of sharing this article? From my perspectives, your question is disingenuous, and your comments are dismissive minimizations of the phenomenon, and the need for further research…

Michael S.: Rayn, I think that you misunderstood what I meant. First, yes, “what’s your point?” is a legitimate question to ask in this case because I have read articles, which have honestly pointed out that the vaccines weren’t going to be perfect, though they were safe enough, which is good enough in this situation. Second, it isn’t a vague claim because the article does specifically indicate why this happens. Third, regarding the medicine, it isn’t so much experimental as that the science is very new, so I’m just being a realist in terms of what we can expect. In other words, this is the best that medical science can do at this point, with the coronavirus vaccines, but it is still pretty good considering everything, and can also just be a part of life sometimes as well. In other words, I think that this is made pretty clear in the article. Fourth, I’m not being dismissive at all. I just think that, even if further research is needed, it isn’t realistic or pragmatic to not give the vaccines to people, if they are safe enough, when millions of people are dying from coronavirus infections. If they have some bad side effects, it isn’t great, but, if people will live and get through them. It is also much better than dying, particularly if the people aren’t harmed.

Rayn: To begin, Michael, your claim, “what’s your point?” is a legitimate question to ask in this case because [you] have read articles, which have honestly pointed out that the vaccines weren’t going to be perfect, though they were safe enough, which is good enough in this situation,” is meaningless, because your personal research on articles about the COVID vaccines have absolutely no bearing upon my post to my wall. Meanwhile, you are admitting your cognitive biases on the topic, which explains your lack of ability to discuss the topic without disingenuous inquiry and dismissive minimizations…

Second, it was *your* claim, here, that was vague, not the article I posted. Keep up, Captain. You said, “the article gave indications why this might be the case.” That’s a completely VAGUE statement, on your part, which holds almost no value, in this conversation.

Third, the rushed vaccines, and the science behind it, are absolutely EXPERIMENTAL. The two major vaccines being distributed were both fast-tracked around any of the usual long-term studies done on medicinal products, and were authorized not through normal licensure, but through an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).

FDA Takes Key Action in Fight Against COVID-19 By Issuing Emergency Use Authorization for First COVID-19 Vaccine:
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-key-action-fight-against-covid-19-issuing-emergency-use-authorization-first-covid-19

As you can read for yourself, in the article I just shared, “the FDA also expects manufacturers whose COVID-19 vaccines are authorized under an EUA to continue their clinical trials to obtain additional safety and effectiveness information and pursue approval (licensure).”

Apparently, with all of the articles you’ve read on the topic, so far, looking to confirm your opinion, you managed to conveniently overlook this important FACT.

Fourth, you were being dismissive of the vaccine anomaly taking place in the original article I posted, in an effort to minimize it, as though it was pointless information for me to post. Unsurprisingly, your latest comment, here, admitting your cognitive biases, reveals exactly why you felt entitled to do so…

The following debate originally took place here, upon the Facebook wall of the page, “Insider Tech“…

Insider Tech: The vaccines will not be mandatory for all Americans and can’t track your location via microchip. But they also won’t be effective instantaneously.

8 Coronavirus Vaccine Myths Debunked, From Microchipping to DNA Changes:
https://www.businessinsider.com/8-coronavirus-vaccine-myths-debunked-from-microchipping-to-mandates-2020-12

Rayn: Debunk this!

People Harmed by Coronavirus Vaccines Will Have Little Recourse:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/people-harmed-by-coronavirus-vaccines-will-have-little-recourse-11602432000

Drugmakers Shielded from COVID Vaccine Liability But Funds for Injury Claims in Doubt:
https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2020/08/14/579150.htm

The PREP Act and COVID-19: Limiting Liability for Medical Countermeasures:
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10443

New Push Could Block COVID-19 Vaccine Injuries From Program That Usually Pays Victims:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/investigations/new-push-could-block-covid-19-vaccine-injuries-from-program-that-usually-pays-victims/2415521/

Big Pharma Co. Gets Immunity from COVID Vaccine Liability: ‘We as a Company Simply Cannot Take the Risk’:
https://www.westernjournal.com/big-pharma-co-gets-immunity-covid-vaccine-liability-company-simply-cannot-take-risk/

AstraZeneca to be Exempt from Coronavirus Vaccine Liability Claims in Most Countries:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-astrazeneca-results-vaccine-liability-idUSKCN24V2EN

Drug Companies Continue to Shed Liability for Rushed Coronavirus Treatments:
https://theintercept.com/2020/08/28/coronavirus-vaccine-prep-act/

Who’s Responsible for COVID-19 Vaccine Damage? Not the Manufacturers:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/291361

COVID-19 Vaccine Makers See EU Shield Against Side-Effect Claims:
https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN26D0TY

UK Government Grants Pfizer Civil Legal Indemnity for COVID-19 Vaccine:
https://www.jurist.org/news/2020/12/uk-government-grants-pfizer-civil-legal-indemnity-for-covid-19-vaccine/

[Canada’s] Trudeau Government Silent on Drug Manufacturer Liability for COVID-19 Vaccines:
https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/12/08/trudeau-government-liability-covid-19-vaccines/

Vaccine Suppliers Given Indemnity for ‘Inevitable’ Side Effects:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-government-grants-indemnity-for-covid-19-vaccine-side-effects-20201008-p5636o.html

Who Pays Compensation if a COVID-19 Vaccine has Rare Side-Effects? Here’s the Little We Know About Australia’s New Deal:
https://theconversation.com/who-pays-compensation-if-a-covid-19-vaccine-has-rare-side-effects-heres-the-little-we-know-about-australias-new-deal-147846

Sallah C.: Rayn, let’s see what these vaccine pushers have to say for themselves

Rayn: Indeed, Sallah!

https://www.facebook.com/acidrayn/posts/10221717010908145

Rayn: https://www.facebook.com/acidrayn/posts/10221706768732097

Dylan M.: Rayn Kleipe-Green the faces at the bottom is called Bell’s palsy stop the lie! I even have the original picture of the post!

Rayn: Dylan, please try to keep up with the most current facts, before publishing your uniformed opinion. It’s not a good look. Even the corrupt FDA doesn’t agree with you.

FDA Staff Recommends Watching for Bell’s Palsy in Moderna and Pfizer Vaccine Recipients:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/15/fda-staff-recommends-watching-for-bells-palsy-in-moderna-and-pfizer-vaccine-recipients.html

Sallah C.: Top WHO Scientist Says Vaccinated Travelers Should Still Quarantine, Citing Lack of Evidence That COVID-19 Vaccines Prevent Transmission:
https://www.businessinsider.com/who-says-no-evidence-coronavirus-vaccine-prevent-transmissions-2020-12

Megan D.: Rayn, hey I got a little (actually a lot) of helpful info from the articles you provided and honestly, I don’t think you read these articles fully. Maybe it was just a lack of comprehension, but here’s a few excerpts from the articles: Vaccines generally are safe, but they can cause side effects—called “adverse events” in studies—including shoulder injuries related to injections, allergic reactions, fainting and certain neurological conditions like encephalitis. Some of the side effects are rare, and public-health officials say the benefits of vaccines in preventing diseases like polio, measles and rotavirus outweigh the risks. 2nd article: No vaccine or drug is 100% safe,” said Cody Meissner, head of the Pediatric Infectious Disease Division at Tufts Medical Center and former chairman of the Advisory Commission on Childhood Vaccines. But benefits exceed the risks. “An adverse reaction for any vaccine is much less than catching the illness and having complications.” 3rd article: While the PREP Act declaration for COVID-19 countermeasures remains in effect, persons seriously injured by the administration of a COVID-19 vaccine authorized by FDA through an EUA (such as the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccine or the Moderna vaccine) could seek compensation through CICP, not VICP. Generally speaking, compensation through CICP is somewhat more limited than VICP. I gave you information from sources you provided on how this vaccine will benefit you, what risks it has, and compensation if an injury results! Hey, thanks for that! Now try rereading those articles YOU provided so you can see for yourself!

Rayn: I read every single article I shared, here, Meghan, and they all report the same VITAL facts that you completely sidestep, to shamelessly shill for Big Pharma…

The Pfizer and Moderna COVID vaccines employ a very new, completely experimental mRNA technology, yet were both rushed through the normal testing phases, and released to the public without the usual benefit of conducting long-term studies, first.

Both companies will continue to study their products, after public release, meaning that the public is part of a BETA TEST, without their knowledge or informed consent.

The pharmaceutical manufacturers will not be held liable for any damages caused by their products. In other words, only “immunity” these vaccines offer, ironically, is legal immunity, for Big Pharma! Any damages caused by these experimental vaccines will be paid for through our tax-dollars, not through the enormous profits that Big Pharma is making off of their experimental vaccines.

Pfizer and Moderna Could Score $32 Billion in COVID-19 Vaccine Sales — in 2021 Alone:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/business/pfizer-vaccine-covid-moderna-revenue/index.html

I gave you pertinent information from my sources, and you ignored it, to shill for Big Pharma, and justify mass-scale human experimentation by convicted corporate felon pharmaceutical companies, without informed consent. Try reading the articles I posted, and thinking critically about the information, instead of waiting for the mainstream media monopoly to connect the dots, for you… With all of the articles I shared, did you find anything about Pfizer being a convicted corporate felon company, found guilty of false advertisement, and pushing dangerous products on the public, in one of the biggest cases like it, in American history?

Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History-
Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history

And, it wasn’t even their first time!

Huge Penalty in Drug Fraud / Pfizer Settles Felony Case in Neurontin Off-Label Promotion:
https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Huge-penalty-in-drug-fraud-Pfizer-settles-2759293.php

Megan D.: Rayn, so to you— you can be anti-mask, anti-vacc, call it a scamdemic. But your concern is that drug companies will profit from saving billions of lives. Please stop, it’s abhorrently clear which side your on, and it’s not of that supporting human life. Tell me how you can be pro-life, but be so completely hypocritical about people actually doing things to save lives and care for other humans. Your arguments are invalid. Byyyeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Rayn: I never mentioned anything about “anti-mask,” nor “scamdemic,” nor did I “spread conspiracy theories,” Meghan. Please stay on topic, and avoid using your imagination to add fallacious strawmen into this discussion. It’s completely unreasonable for you to create my position for me. And, it’s distracting that I’m forced to correct your erroneous logic, with time that I’d prefer to spent sharing information, rather than dispelling a load of myths you’ve created surrounding my position. Pay attention to the *actual* words I’ve posted, here, and place your biases, digressions, and emotion, aside. If you manage to get there, you’ll soon discover that my high-level concerns about a rushed, experimental vaccine product, with no long-term studies, beta-tested on the public, at large, and created by a career convicted corporate felon company that has been preemptively granted legal immunity by the governments of the world from any damages that their product might cause, are absolutely warranted, 100%. The history of Pfizer doesn’t at all support your delusions about this career convicted corporate felon pharmaceutical company “doing things to save lives and care for other humans.” Your unquestioning dedication to government and corporation based “science” exposes your complete and total historical illiteracy.