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Adding Some Clarity to the Misleading Claim that “All Food is Genetically Modified”

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The following debate originally took place here, upon the Facebook page, “FEE“…

(replies from all third parties have been omitted for clarity)

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FEE: All Food Is Genetically Modified. Now We’re Just Better at It.
https://fee.org/articles/all-food-is-genetically-modified-now-were-just-doing-it-better/

Rayn: LOL! Sure! We’ve been splicing plant genes with that of bacteria and insects since the dawn of humanity! *facepalm*

Scott S.: Nature has been. It’s called horizontal gene transfer- take a biology course.

Rayn: LOL. Thanks for the condescending “advice,” but I majored in biology at Stonybrook University. Before that, I went to Clara Barton High School for Health Professions, where I scored a 92 on the Biology Regents Test – the highest in my entire school.

Horizontal gene transfer is a nature-guided process of evolutionary adaptation, most common to *single-celled organisms*. It typically involves the transfer of only a tiny fractions of genetic material at a time while single-celled organisms interact with their environment. This process isn’t even REMOTELY similar to *human-directed* gene-splicing of *large sections* of *highly complex organisms,* such as plants, with the DNA of other *highly complex organisms,* such as insects, nor even with single-celled soil bacteria.

Jamie M.: They used chemicals and radiation instead.

Successfully Peaceful and Prosperous Anarchy Has Existed All Throughout the Humanity’s History

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The following debate originally took place upon my Facebook wall, after I shared artwork posted to the page, “Anarchist Memes” by a fan…

Rayn:

"What people think Anarchy is What Anarchy really is"

“What people think Anarchy is
What Anarchy really is”

Murilo M.: I like your posts Rayn, but this is one I have to disagree with. How can you be sure? Have you ever seen a country in which anarchy worked well?

Rayn: “I am often asked if anarchy has ever existed in our world, to which I answer: almost all of your daily behavior is an anarchistic expression. How you deal with your neighbors, coworkers, fellow customers in shopping malls or grocery stores, is often determined by subtle processes of negotiation and cooperation. Social pressures, unrelated to statutory enactments, influence our behavior on crowded freeways or grocery checkout lines. If we dealt with our colleagues at work in the same coercive and threatening manner by which the state insists on dealing with us, our employment would be immediately terminated. We would soon be without friends were we to demand that they adhere to specific behavioral standards that we had mandated for their lives.

Should you come over to our home for a visit, you will not be taxed, searched, required to show a passport or driver’s license, fined, jailed, threatened, handcuffed, or prohibited from leaving. I suspect that your relationships with your friends are conducted on the same basis of mutual respect. In short, virtually all of our dealings with friends and strangers alike are grounded in practices that are peaceful, voluntary, and devoid of coercion.” – Butler Shaffer

Rayn:  “Until shortly before the common era, the very last 1 percent of human history, the social landscape consisted of elementary self-governing kinship units that might, occasionally, cooperate in hunting, feasting, skirmishing, trading, and peacemaking. It did not contain anything one could call a state. In other words, living in the absence of state structures has been the standard human condition.” – Yale professor, James C. Scott

Has Anarchy Ever Existed Before?
https://theruleoffreedom.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/has-anarchy-existed-before/
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Clarifying a Meme About the GOP Sabotaging Presidential Candidate, Dr. Ron Paul, in 2012

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The following debate originally took place upon my Facebook wall, after I posted a meme being shared by an acquainted from here…

Rayn:

"Yeah, if somebody could leak GOP emails from 2012 to show that they are also corrupt enough to rig elections... That'd be great"

“Yeah, if somebody could leak GOP
emails from 2012 to show that they
are also corrupt enough to rig elections…
That’d be great”

Daniel Sv.: That’s a bit of a mis characterization. If there were any emails leaked, you would probably see that the RNC establishment was going out of their way to sabotage Trump. They desperately wanted some establishment candidate, even Ted Cruz (who is part of the establishment, though heavily disliked for his arrogant and brusque style). Remember how they attempted to cancel the Colorado primary and award the delegates to Cruz? The reason why Trump won is that the establishment was fundamentally bankrupt. People were tired of the establishment candidates pandering to topics that had nothing to do with them (abortion, endless wars, fundamentalist Christianity, etc) while signaling tepid support for maintaining the middle class, then when getting elected to chuck those by the wayside and pocket money from Goldman Sachs while continuing on unnecessary wars. People see that the establishment is scared of an outsider candidate like Trump and it’s making them mad with glee.

Rayn: Hmm… I’m not sure if you realize, but this meme actually refers to the RNC rigging of their own primary elections through the systematic disenfranchisement of presidential candidate Dr. Ron Paul in (both 2008 and) 2012.

Discussing the Police Arrests of Cannabis Smokers at Guns N’ Roses Concert in New Jersey

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The following debate originally took place upon the Facebook wall of family…

Guns' N' Roses on stage, performing a concert at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey

Guns’ N’ Roses on stage, performing a concert at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey

Sara: This is why I don’t bother with shows in NJ. Cops out there harrassing fans just looking to have a good time. Watch out for them MARIJEWANNA smokers! smh.

30 People Arrested at Guns N’ Roses Concert at MetLife Stadium:
http://abc7ny.com/entertainment/30-people-arrested-at-guns-n-roses-concert-at-metlife-stadium-/1441247/

Justin W.: Prison complex industry is a highly profitable business in the land of the home of the free n brave.

Jason K.: I know. It’s crazy that police would arrest people for drugs, assault, etc etc. What is this world coming to? Lol

Sara: They arrested people for smoking weed which I do not consider a drug and the other shit probably happened while people were resisting arrest from being arrested for weed. 30 people though? Sounds like they had nothing better to so but hang out at a GNR concert and harass people. Every concert I go to people smoke up. They’re not hurting anyone.

Jason K.: Yeah, but the facts are it wasn’t just weed and there were sexual assaults as well. Also some fights. I guess that should be part of the concert experience. Lol

Sara: Any body acting violently deserved to be arrested but leave the pot smokers alone.

Jason K.: Not really Sara. First it’s illegal. Second, what about people who want to go to a concert and not be forced to smell pot. Some people find the smell gross. Then their clothes and hair reek from it as well. Third, how about people who have to take drug test for work? When your breathing that in all night it get in your system. 3 years ago a friend of mine failed a drug test and was suspended for 30 days without pay

Sara: Waaaa. Poor you. Don’t go to GNR concert if you don’t want to smell like weed and cigs. Stay at home and watch a DVD.. I’m aware pot is illegal but as I said, I don’t consider it a drug and most people don’t. They’re committing a victimless crime. This story you told is literally the first time I’ve ever heard of someone failing a test by catching contact. Any company that would suspend someone for weed for 30 days is full of shit. I hope he hired a lawyer and fought that Shit and no longer works for that company.

Jordan K.: Jason, you have got to be the biggest cop dick sucking vagina I’ve ever seen. “Oh noo bad things were happening so that means peaceful marijuana smokers should go to jail along with violent people.” Did you have to strain for that logic? You fucken pantywaste. “My feelings are hurt I had to smell the smoke…w ahhhhh!” Don’t go a concert then you fucking pussy.

Jordan K.: Jason, 3 years ago your friend lied about failing a drug test from a contact high. They smoked that shit, but cool story bro! Now please go back to catching pokemon in your safezone. Don’t run too fast you might fall and hurt your knee again!

Rayn: “Illegal”? Statism is a disease of the mind and the soul…

“Slavery was legal; apartheid [was] legal; Stalinist, Nazi, and Maoist purges were legal. Clearly, the fact of legality does not justify these crimes. Legality, alone, cannot be the talisman of moral people.” – Walter E. Williams

Jordan K.: Rayn: Exactly! Saying, “first it’s illegal” is like saying “first, I’m a mindless soulless drone that does whatever the State tells me too because I have no moral compass of my own.” (Click Here to Continue Reading This Post) →

Statist Doublethink About “Blocking Traffic”

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The following debate originally took place upon the Facebook wall of my friend, Rebekah P…

Rebekah P.:

Oakland Protests: More Than 1,000 Take to the Streets to Protest Deadly Shootings By Police:
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Keisha M.: Not smart walking into highway traffic. What point are they making if they cause accidents and people get hurt.

Karen S.: And ambulances carrying people of ANY race or religion can’t get to hospital in time because of traffic tie- up? Whoever life matters then? This is. Dangerous and inappropriate form of protest and civil disobedience. There are better ways to draw attention to a cause then this. IMHO

Rebekah S.: The only thing that could have made this better would have been superhero costumes, such as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or Leela & Crew of Futurama. When the death toll of murders on civilians lowers to almost none, then I will condemn this behavior. I did not see this group stop any emergency vehicles from passing thru. Dr. Suess warned us.

Rebekah S.: Much too long…

Bob Marley – Babylon System:
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Aten M.: lol… the people are inconsiderate, inappropriate..

Rayn: Hmm… Why do Statists never seem to speak up when the tax-funded mercenaries are out blocking traffic to harass, intimate, and extort the public, under color of law?

"#BlueLivesMatters is at it again. Blocking traffic, harassing people, and making them late for work."

“#BlueLivesMatters is at it again.
Blocking traffic, harassing people, and making them late for work.”