Discussing Obama’s Continuation and Expansion of America’s Wars

The following correspondence originally took place upon the Facebook wall of my friend, Jonas A., after he shared artwork from here

Jonas A.: Both are equal and opposite of the same BS we all are dealing with….time to boot them all out!

"If you haven't figured it out by now... These are corporate spokesmen, not leaders. They both started illegal wars, tortured people, bailed out criminal corporations, spied on you, violated the Constitution, and committed war crimes. What is it going to take to wake you up?"

“If you haven’t figured it out by now…
These are corporate spokesmen, not leaders.
They both started illegal wars, tortured people,
bailed out criminal corporations, spied on you,
violated the Constitution, and committed war crimes.

What is it going to take to wake you up?”

Lynne C.: Ok…I’m confused….just what war did Obama start???

Jonas A.: One started…the other just continued the program….

Lynne C.: Correct me if I’m wrong….but Obama is bringing the military home. I’m Canadian and its on our news up here….WorldTruth seems to be blowing wind as far as I’m concerned.

Rayn: To answer your question, Lynne. Obama has authorized the US military to engage in illegal warfare against the nations of Yemen, Libya, Somalia and Syria, on top of continuing with Bush’s wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan. I hope this information alleviates your confusion.

Lynne C.: A person doesn’t know who or what to believe any more….that I am sure of.

Rayn: Only believe the facts. 😉 (Click Here to Continue Reading This Post)

Are Obama’s Claims of Progressing Civil Rights and the American Economy Actually Legitimate?

The following debate originally took place on my Facebook wall, upon my post, “Hooray! The “Lesser of Two Evils” Has Prevailed!“…

Rayn: The sheeple have spoken, and the “lesser of two evils” has prevailed! More wars! More drone strikes! More murdered civilians! More indefinite detentions! More torture! More names on the “Presidential Kill List”! More assassinations of American citizens! Yay for democracy! Hooray for progress!

"Americans used to fight fascists, now they vote for them"

“Americans used to fight fascists, now they vote for them”

Brian J.But yay for women’s rights, healthcare, gay rights, and the middle-class. Obama kills for an actual reason, even though it’s wrong. Bush killed for no reason. Obama is at least trying to catch the terrorists, that the CIA creates. LOL! At least that’s some progress. But America is gonna get even better in the next four years, and I get to relax. And I voted Libertarian! Who would of thunk it?! 🙂

James J.Obama spent more on the war then bush ever did and is a drone strike fanatic and it is proven drone strikes kills are 80% civilian including woman and children and he also supports every bad thing we hated about bush including the patriot act which allows him to detain anyone for what ever reason and hold them with out trial not including his own recklessness with the war that gots his own commanders worried what he is going to do next

Daniel F.Tonight was a victory for the American people. The repuglicans’ attempts at voter suppression may very well have backfired in a major way, as all over the country people refused to be deterred by long lines from casting their votes. Romney and the rethuglicans had nothing to run on aside from bigotry and fear, and in the end all that cash from the Koch-heads and Adelson ended up being for nothing. The plutocrats were hell-bent on making sure that Elizabeth Warren never got anywhere near the Senate, and they failed at that. Those Akin and Turdock creatures found out the hard way that such comments on rape do not go over well even in states like Missouri and Indiana. And in Colorado and Washington, voters actually voted to legalize recreational use of marijuana. And most importantly we are reminded that the winner of an election is not the candidate who can raise the most money, but the candidate who gets the most votes.

GenaireBrian, we all lose. Only those looking for handout seem to think the opposite.

Brian J.Actually, we don’t. Obama hasn’t been perfect, and he has committed war crimes. But the economy is getting better, more jobs are being created, and the unemployment rate is going down. He’s definitely a better choice than Romney, and I think he’s gonna become a good president for the American people. But if you’re a terrorist that we created, watch out! Lol!

Brian J.Obama has done many good things for the American people, during the last four years. You just don’t hear about it, due to the lack of coverage on what he’s done. Sadly, his focus on using the Patriot Act, and drone attacks, gets more attention. And he hasn’t started any new wars. He ended one war, and has only used drone attacks, without creating another war, or spending more money.

GenaireBrian, why do you keep comparing Obama to Romney? Our political system has more than two political parties. Yes, we, in your mind may have elected into office the lesser of the two evils, but we had more than two choices. He can create all the jobs in the world – with the money he spends on war, it won’t matter.

Rayn: Obama HAS started new wars, Brian. We already discussed this, when you made this claim previously. Therefore, I will just cut and paste what I already wrote to you in our last discussion on the subject (https://acidrayn.com/2012/10/15/has-obama-been-helping-to-restore-america-or-is-he-just-another-warmongering-corporate-puppet/):

Obama actually escalated America’s war in Afghanistan, while also aggressively continuing war operations in Pakistan, and authorizing new military strikes against Yemen, Libya and Somalia. Therefore, he has unequivocally engaged the U.S. in EVEN MORE WAR:

The Nine Surges of Obama’s War [in Afghanistan] (December 2009 article):
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/10/opinion/main5962574.shtml

Obama’s 262 Drone Strikes in Pakistan (June 2012 article):
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2012/06/obama_drone_strikes_the_president_ordered_more_than_george_w_bush.html

Obama Ramps Up Covert [Drone] War in Yemen (June 2011 article):
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/opinion/bergen-yemen-drone-war/index.html

White House Defends Continuing U.S. Military Role in Libya Operation (June 2011 article):
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/06/16/us/politics/16powers.html?referrer=

Obama (Finally) Notifies Congress of Troops Deployed to Libya and Yemen (September 2012 article):
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/obama-notifies-congress-of-troops-deployed-to-libya-and-yemen/

Obama’s New War in Uganda (October 2011 article):
http://spectator.org/articles/36660/obamas-new-war-uganda

Obama Acknowledges Waging War in Somalia in Latest War Powers Report (June 2012 article):
http://reason.com/blog/2012/06/18/president-obama-acknowledges-waging-war
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Then, there’s the matter of Obama’s numerous threats to engage in even more new wars that the ones just mentioned:

Obama Threatens Force Against Syria (August 2012 article):
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/08/21/world/middleeast/obama-threatens-force-against-syria.html?referrer=

Obama Ordered Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran (June 2012 article):
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/world/middleeast/obama-ordered-wave-of-cyberattacks-against-iran.html?referrer=

Armada of US and British Naval Power Amassing in Persian Gulf, Prepared for Possible Iran Strike (September 2012):
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9545597/Armada-of-international-naval-power-massing-in-the-Gulf-as-Israel-prepares-an-Iran-strike.html
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The So-Called “Shocking” Pattern of Obama Repeating Some of the Worst of George W. Bush

I originally posted the following information and commentary onto my Facebook wall…

Obama & Bush: Two Peas in a Pod

Obama & Bush: Two Peas in a Pod

The Shocking Pattern of Obama Repeating Some of the Worst of George W. Bush:
http://www.alternet.org/story/152095/the_shocking_pattern_of_obama_repeating_some_of_the_worst_of_george_w._bush/

(TomDispatch.comDavid Bromwich) Is it too soon to speak of the Bush-Obama presidency?

The record shows impressive continuities between the two administrations, and nowhere more than in the policy of “force projection” in the Arab world. With one war half-ended in Iraq, but another doubled in size and stretching across borders in Afghanistan; with an expanded program of drone killings and black-ops assassinations, the latter glorified in special ceremonies of thanksgiving (as they never were under Bush); with the number of prisoners at Guantanamo having decreased, but some now slated for permanent detention; with the repeated invocation of “ state secrets ” to protect the government from charges of war crimes; with the Patriot Act renewed and its most dubious provisions left intact — the Bush-Obama presidency has sufficient self-coherence to be considered a historical entity with a life of its own.

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My Commentary: Shocking? NO!!! Not to me, nor to the millions other Americans who no longer subscribe to the false paradigm of the warmongering two-party fraud-system! Not everyone has had their head in the sand! One thing’s FOR SURE: as the government continues to murder, war, occupy and imperialize, MANY, MANY MORE individuals will awaken from their slumber to the reality of the BIG LIE!

Obama: Rich Globalist Puppet and War Criminal, Extraordinaire!

The following correspondence originally took place upon the Facebook wall of family

Big Spender, Barack Obama

Big Spender, Barack Obama

Genaire: Obama has spent more then any other first term president in history!!!

Jason V.: It’s expensive cleaning up someone else’s mess . . . Lol

Genaire: He’s making a huge mess of his own. Yes he removed a lot of the troops we have in Iraq but we have record numbers of contracted forces in iraq now that make three times what the conventional forces make. Now that these forced have been removed from Iraq we can prepare them to fight in afghanistan and Iran Go Obama lol! Ron Paul 2012

Earlene E.: Not his fault he has to clean behind others. Good U acknowledge he has removed troops form Iraq. Surely, we can find some positive in his actions and focus on that as opposed to the negatives so much. Like Steve Harvey says: “Don’t trip. God ain’t finished with me, yet.”

Jason V.: Yeah, it’s amazing the criticism he gets from only what, 2 years? Lmao . . . It’s crazy how quickly everyone forget the prior 8 years . . . BUSH, remeber him? Probably the worst president in the history of the u.s. . . . . Although time will tell .. . .

Genaire: Okay, my beef is, if we really had no business in Iraq in the first place, why did it take this long to return our troops. Second, does any one really know why we are in Afghanistan (to spread Democracy)? Now its been speculated that we will go to war with Iran. If this guy is the savior why has he not pulled out all the troops in all the countries we are presently invading. We are spending trillions in the name of spreading Democracy and I personally don’t think its our business to spread Democracy to nations that are willing to fight soo hard to reject it. What’s really going on is we are trying to get a line for our pipe lines to the Caspian sea so we can milk the Middle East dry for its oil. Its a practice that Bush put in place and its being followed by Obama the savior.

Rayn: Obama is just another bought-and-paid for puppet of the Elite. He is also a war criminal, too, like Bush. And, just like Bush, he is a member of that 1% sliver of the American public that is super-rich. And, because he doesn’t live in the real world, he does not, and never will, represent the interests of the American people.

Anyone who voted for Obama on the premise that he would end the wars in the Middle-East simply wasn’t paying attention. While Obama did promise, when on the campaign trail, to withdraw substantial combat troops from Iraq… he explained again and again that he would do so in order to send them into Afghanistan! He also promised to escalate covert bombings within the borders of Pakistan, as well!

However, America has no business in Iraq OR Afghanistan (or Pakistan, for that matter)! Our military has been conducting HIGHLY ILLEGAL operations within the borders of these countries every day single day for years now, and it is all justified under the dictatorship of executive-branch-based legal maneuvering! Yet, it ‘s STILL all WAR CRIMES! Even the slightest amount of critical thinking would yield the following results: regardless of who is in charge while it takes place, WARS OF AGGRESSION and TORTURE are WRONG! Therefore, those who have become APOLOGISTS for it now that their “choice” candidate is in office are simply fooling themselves, and STILL AREN’T FOCUSING ON WHAT REALLY MATTERS!