Discussing the Police Arrests of Cannabis Smokers at Guns N’ Roses Concert in New Jersey

The following debate originally took place upon the Facebook wall of family…

Guns' N' Roses on stage, performing a concert at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey

Guns’ N’ Roses on stage, performing a concert at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey

Sara: This is why I don’t bother with shows in NJ. Cops out there harrassing fans just looking to have a good time. Watch out for them MARIJEWANNA smokers! smh.

30 People Arrested at Guns N’ Roses Concert at MetLife Stadium:
http://abc7ny.com/entertainment/30-people-arrested-at-guns-n-roses-concert-at-metlife-stadium-/1441247/

Justin W.: Prison complex industry is a highly profitable business in the land of the home of the free n brave.

Jason K.: I know. It’s crazy that police would arrest people for drugs, assault, etc etc. What is this world coming to? Lol

Sara: They arrested people for smoking weed which I do not consider a drug and the other shit probably happened while people were resisting arrest from being arrested for weed. 30 people though? Sounds like they had nothing better to so but hang out at a GNR concert and harass people. Every concert I go to people smoke up. They’re not hurting anyone.

Jason K.: Yeah, but the facts are it wasn’t just weed and there were sexual assaults as well. Also some fights. I guess that should be part of the concert experience. Lol

Sara: Any body acting violently deserved to be arrested but leave the pot smokers alone.

Jason K.: Not really Sara. First it’s illegal. Second, what about people who want to go to a concert and not be forced to smell pot. Some people find the smell gross. Then their clothes and hair reek from it as well. Third, how about people who have to take drug test for work? When your breathing that in all night it get in your system. 3 years ago a friend of mine failed a drug test and was suspended for 30 days without pay

Sara: Waaaa. Poor you. Don’t go to GNR concert if you don’t want to smell like weed and cigs. Stay at home and watch a DVD.. I’m aware pot is illegal but as I said, I don’t consider it a drug and most people don’t. They’re committing a victimless crime. This story you told is literally the first time I’ve ever heard of someone failing a test by catching contact. Any company that would suspend someone for weed for 30 days is full of shit. I hope he hired a lawyer and fought that Shit and no longer works for that company.

Jordan K.: Jason, you have got to be the biggest cop dick sucking vagina I’ve ever seen. “Oh noo bad things were happening so that means peaceful marijuana smokers should go to jail along with violent people.” Did you have to strain for that logic? You fucken pantywaste. “My feelings are hurt I had to smell the smoke…w ahhhhh!” Don’t go a concert then you fucking pussy.

Jordan K.: Jason, 3 years ago your friend lied about failing a drug test from a contact high. They smoked that shit, but cool story bro! Now please go back to catching pokemon in your safezone. Don’t run too fast you might fall and hurt your knee again!

Rayn: “Illegal”? Statism is a disease of the mind and the soul…

“Slavery was legal; apartheid [was] legal; Stalinist, Nazi, and Maoist purges were legal. Clearly, the fact of legality does not justify these crimes. Legality, alone, cannot be the talisman of moral people.” – Walter E. Williams

Jordan K.: Rayn: Exactly! Saying, “first it’s illegal” is like saying “first, I’m a mindless soulless drone that does whatever the State tells me too because I have no moral compass of my own.” (Click Here to Continue Reading This Post)

Decriminalization is Superior to Legalization, in Regards to Ending the Fallacious “War on Drugs”

I originally posted the following information and commentary onto my Facebook wall…

U.S. Drug Addiction Rate, 1970-2010 U.S. Drug Control Spending, 1970-2010"

U.S. Drug Addiction Rate, 1970-2010
U.S. Drug Control Spending, 1970-2010″

Why We Should End The Failed War On Drugs (And Legalization Is The Best Alternative):
http://www.libertyandcommonsense.com/?p=376

“It constantly amazes me that defenders of the free market are expected to offer certainty and perfection while government has only to make promises and express good intentions.” This double standard, recognized by Lawrence Reed, is particularly evident with respect to the “war on drugs.” Despite over a trillion dollars spent, the arrest and imprisonment of millions of Americans,  and cities that have been turned into virtual war zones, we are no closer to eliminating the scourge of drug abuse today than when Nixon declared illicit drugs “public enemy number one” and promised to wage “an all-out, global war” “to fight and defeat this enemy.” After 45 years, few would dispute that the “war on drugs” has been an abject failure.

(Read entire article here…)

My Commentary: Decriminalization > Legalization

Synchronicity Between a Facebook Memory and a Recent Debate

As I scrolled through my Facebook memories, I discovered the following artwork, which I originally shared to my wall in November of 2012, in my post, “Legality IS NOT Morality,” and decidedly re-shared it, along with a new commentary…

My Original Commentary: Wake up! Legality IS NOT morality, my friends!

“How does something immoral, when done privately, become moral when it is done collectively? Furthermore, does legality establish morality? Slavery was legal; apartheid was legal; Stalinist, Nazi, and Maoist purges were legal. Clearly, the fact of legality does not justify these crimes. Legality, alone, cannot be the talisman of moral people.” – Walter E. Williams

My New Commentary: Synchronicity! I just shared this in the comment section of one of my posts, then discover it waiting in my memories section!

Debating About Democracy

The following debate originally took place upon my Facebook wall, after I posted artwork being shared by the page, “People for Anarchy, Voluntaryism, Non-Aggression, and Liberty“…

Rayn:

"Democracy is the means by which those who adore authority and crave security of servitude can use their superior numbers to enslave those who wish to be free"

“Democracy is the means by which those who adore authority and crave security of servitude can use their superior numbers to enslave those who wish to be free”

Daniel Sv.: Democracy is stable until a politician discovers they can stay in office by promising free goodies from the treasury.

Daniel F.: There is a reason why we have a Constitution and a judicial branch. On more than a few occasions a law that was passed by a majority-elected legislative body (federal or state) that reflected the desires of a majority of that body’s constituency was nonetheless struck down as unconstitutional, often for infringing upon the rights of a minority.

And it is for this reason that federal judges (including Supreme Court justices) are appointed and not elected, so as to not be subject to the whims of an often prejudiced electorate. Cases like Brown v. Board of Ed. could have gone down very differently if the justices rendering the decision had to worry about being reelected and how their decision would affect their reelection chances.

Rayn: Daniel Sv., democracy is merely mob rule, as a political system. It is inherently flawed because it does not adequately acknowledge and protect all of the rights of the Individual. Mises said it best: “All rational action is in the first place individual action. Only the individual thinks. Only the individual reasons. Only the individual acts.”

The “common good” that Democracy claims to protect is just an ever-elusive, ever-evolving myth that inevitably signifies the slow-march towards pathocracy, and eventually, full democide.

Rayn: Not at all impressed by the US government, I agree with Lysander Spooner, Daniel F. “But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain – that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.”

The US government certainly was designed with a Constitution and three branches of “checks and balances” for VERY GOOD, HISTORICALLY-ESTABLISHED reason: GOVERNMENT CANNOT BE TRUSTED WITH AUTHORITY, NOR POWER, NOR HUMAN LIVES!!!

While real human beings demanded the acknowledgement and respect of their rights, the US government was busy institutionalized slavery, committing genocide, and denying their MAJORITY (women) the right to even directly participate in said system. The Truth isn’t nearly so romantic….

Daniel F.: Politics, like nature, abhors a vacuum. There will always be someone in power, someone who will be able to wield enough force in order to coerce the masses to obey. When there is more than one faction competing for power within a given area, you end up with civil war as each faction attempts to exert its rule. (Click Here to Continue Reading This Post)

Submission to a Dominating Influence

As I scrolled through my Facebook news feed, I discovered the following artwork here, being shared by the page, “Cop Block,” and originally posted it to my own wall, along with commentary

Explain This: Farmers in West Virginia farmed the ginseng plant out of season - 11 arrests; BP oil's Deepwater Horizon destroys entire ecosystem in Gulf of Mexico - 0 arrests

Explain This: Farmers in West Virginia farmed the ginseng plant out of season – 11 arrests; BP oil’s Deepwater Horizon destroys entire ecosystem in Gulf of Mexico – 0 arrests

My Commentary: What term describes “submission to a dominating influence”?