Debating the Risks Associated With Donating Our Living Bodies to Government in the Name of Corporate $cience

The following debate originally took place upon the Facebook wall of my friend, Daniel Sv…

Daniel Sv.:

Laudisz B.: me too (it was my third, after sinoph*2: the 1st pfizer)

Jesse S.: I am glad you took care of that because it is necessary to protect yourself and others around you!

Laudisz B.: nicely done,. vaccinating is intelligent, whilw not vaccination is unintelligent

Rachel B.: Laudisz, I’m pretty sure the Tuskegee study shows that it’s not intelligent to just blindly follow without researching what’s being put in your body. Blindly fearing is also bad. Neither one is intelligent, or unintelligent, it’s the manner in which people do it that makes them unintelligent

Laudisz B.: Wrong. Layman should blindly follow. That is intelligence among laymen. Reasoning: if you have no idea about the toptic, the most intelligent to do is to accept the superioir opinion.Blindly fearing is also bad – here agree -unintelligent as well. Hope this helps

Rachel B.: Laudisz, there are many professionals who are not getting the vaccine. Microbiologists, virologists, immunologists, doctors, nurses, people in the know, are speaking against it. Scientists all over are getting silenced. Should not that be a big red flag to you? These aren’t just everyday people.

Laudisz B.: Rachel, again wrong, all professionals want the vaccine, those who don’t they are cheaters or charlatans (Me: 7 year med univ, +6 years postrgradual training to intensive therapy.)

Laudisz B.: I treat the infected people. I think th topic is discussed.

Rachel B.: Laudisz, So, everyone who disagrees with you doesn’t count for anything? 😆

Not very scientific of you. You’re one of the people who should know that a weak vaccine like what we have has the potential to cause far more harm. The efficacy is pretty bad, doesn’t last very long, doesn’t even prevent death, and no one is being held liable for any bad side effects, of which there are, although the government is saying that no one has to follow the law requiring them to report said side effects. There are a lot of red flags, especially when people like you who are in the medical field, demand trust while there are a million questions not being answered.

Bribing people, coercing, threatening, the way this vaccine has been pushed has been like an abusive relationship, not like how all the other vaccines have been, and it’s caused a lot of mistrusting people. Calling other professionals who are of a different opinion than you “cheaters” definitely gets you zero trust, and an automatic suspicion. Science is about questioning, anyway, that’s how we get more answers to potential problems, and if you swear that this vaccine is 100% perfect, then you’re more an idiot than I thought.

Laudisz B.: Rachel, as reading through your thoughts,I havea feeling, 1 ) you are an intelligent man 2) no knowledge in biology.

Rachel B.: Laudisz, incorrect on both counts.

Laudisz B.: okay conclsion: please everyyone take the third vaccine.

Rachel B.: Laudisz, yeah, very unscientific. Conclusion, don’t blindly trust those who act like they’re in a cult and refuse to accept questioning of their beliefs.

Jenny S.: Rachel, Don’t trust people on the internet, people make things up to make them sound better and/or more of an authority than you to push their transparent agenda. People lie on FB a lot. About their careers, family, friends everything 🤔

Laudisz B.: I am the professional whose opinion you all are looking for, you just don’t know it. So please take vaccines, this is the consensus among us,professionals. It saves many more lives than you would think (if you are an outsider and don’t frequently visit hospitals or not at all). Good for you, and it should remain like that.

Zach A.: Congratulations! And welcome to the club!  😃 (@Daniel)

Alan G.: You sold out, man! (@Daniel)

Rayn: Congratulations, lab rat! (@Daniel)

Rayn: The “profe$$ionals” are in full agreement! (@Laudisz)

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(Not sure why Facebook removed my comment, multiple times)


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Rayn: $cIeNcE is $eTtLeD!

The Biopharmaceutical Industry Provides 75% Of The FDA’s Drug Review Budget. Is This A Problem?

Rayn: $cIeNcE is $eTtLeD! 😸


Rayn: You Can’t Sue Pfizer or Moderna if you Have Severe COVID Vaccine Side Effects. The Government Likely Won’t Compensate You for Damages, Either:

People Harmed by Coronavirus Vaccines Will Have Little Recourse:

Drugmakers Shielded from COVID Vaccine Liability But Funds for Injury Claims in Doubt:

The PREP Act and COVID-19: Limiting Liability for Medical Countermeasures:

New Push Could Block COVID-19 Vaccine Injuries From Program That Usually Pays Victims:

Big Pharma Co. Gets Immunity from COVID Vaccine Liability: ‘We as a Company Simply Cannot Take the Risk’:

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Coronavirus Vaccine: Pfizer Given Protection from Legal Action by UK Government:

UK Government Grants Pfizer Civil Legal Indemnity for COVID-19 Vaccine:

[Canada’s] Trudeau Government Silent on Drug Manufacturer Liability for COVID-19 Vaccines:

Vaccine Suppliers Given Indemnity for ‘Inevitable’ Side Effects:

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Rayn: Pfizer is a convicted corporate felon company, found guilty of false advertisement, and pushing dangerous products on the public, in one of the biggest cases like it, in American history… So, OBVIOUSLY, they are completely trustworthy, and if you lack any confidence in their “products,” it’s only because you’re a ignorant science-denying layman who’s too stupid to recognize your superiors, and mindlessly follow their noble edicts, when ordered to!

Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History-
Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing:

And, it wasn’t even their first time!

Huge Penalty in Drug Fraud / Pfizer Settles Felony Case in Neurontin Off-Label Promotion:

Laudisz B.: Rayn, then take a vaccine of another company

Jesus G.: Rayn + make your own vaccine at home guys : )

Make Your Own Flu Vaccine:

Rayn: “ThEn TaKe A vAcCiNe Of AnOtHeR cOmPaNy” – Corporate $cience Cultist

Cool story, bro. 😎 However, your dismissive, apathetic, unsolicited, critical-thinking-free “suggestion” to me only exposes the fact that you haven’t even begun to properly educate yourself about the conspiratorial intrigues of corporate-level criminality, Mr. “Profe$$ional.”

Johnson & Johnson to Pay $2.2B in U.S. Health Care Fraud Settlement (November 2013):

Former Johnson and Johnson Executives Are Convicted Over Off-Label Marketing (July 2016):

By the way, why are you spewing unsolicited “medical advice” at me, anyway? You don’t even have the first clue about my medical history, my allergy status, nor any contraindications I have. Are you some sort of eugenicist? Disgusting…

Newsflash! I’m not here to be your f^cking lab rat, nor to play society’s f^cking guinea pig… In spite of my disability, I will continue to protect my bodily autonomy against the ill-intentions of all NPCs and NSPs (Non-Source-Players).

Laudisz B.: Rayn, it’s not like that. You can’t refer to freedom of your own body, if that puts others to danger. Contraindication is a previous severe allergic reaction to an ingredient that is in the vaccine. If you have more questions I answer them, but pls leave this trash talk (also, I am not interested in consp theories). So if you would like to ask for a certain knowledge you would like to know go ahead.

Rayn: Your lack of respect for the bodily autonomy of others doesn’t entitle you to force medical procedures upon the innocent, Laudisz, regardless of the pathetic excuses you come up with to justify such criminal activity. This is especially true when considering the fact that you advocate forcing a “preventative” procedure upon otherwise healthy individuals, against their will. Show me a single shred of evidence that my individual bodily autonomy is placing even one other individual in “danger,” sociopath. As my Accuser, the burden of proof is squarely on YOU to provide evidence of your claims against my peaceful innocence. And, considering the fact that you know zero about my medical status, it’s obvious to me that you’re a charlatan.

This might surprise you to learn, but good ideas don’t require force. Consent is the foundation of a peaceful and just society, whereas COERCION is the tool of WEAK, incompetent, and arrogant authoritarians, who SIMPLY DO NOT POSSESS the social and emotional intelligence required to persuade others, nor to treat their peers as equals…

P.S. I didn’t ask you to define “contraindication,” you smug, self-important embarrassment. I wrote, “you don’t even have the first clue about my medical history, my allergy status, nor and contraindications I have.” My words are still available to read, above, clearly. Your pathetic attempt to twist them into an inquiry for youself to answer REEKS of desperation. Talk about thirsty! The medical “expertise” you imagine to hold – which you feel entitles you to push rushed, experimental modified-gene-therapy-treatments upon society, at large, is 100% based in arrogant delusion. You do not know the medical status, nor history, of even 1,000 individuals, let alone the whole planet. You are a victim of your own ego. The only danger I see, between the two of us, is your promotion of MEDICAL TYRANNY. Historically, your kind has been far more dangerous and deadly to humanity than ANY healthy, “asymptomatic,” natural-immunity-supporting individual, like myself, has EVER been!

Laudisz B.: Rayn, good luck

Rayn: No thanks, Laudisz. I don’t believe in superstitious nonsense, like “luck,” nor “authority.”

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